Best receiver for fringe reception

emission

Hello all

I live in Geneva, switzerland and I'm using a triax 110 to receive Nilesat channels, which I do receive but not as strong as I wish. I'm using a Nokia 9800S for the timebeing and I'm thinking of replacing it with a stonger/better one to secure better reception. I would appreciate any advice on the best receiver to use for enhancing the reception, as well as the best LNB in this regard, if any.

Thanks folks

Vipersan

Hi emission ..
I believe this is the best offset dish lnbf for fringe reception

_http://www.inverto.tv/products/product.php?section=1&id=68

The inverto black ultra which comes in single twin and quad.
I have the same dish as you and find it outperforms most dishes of similar size .
I haven't fitted mine with the black ultra yet ..as they appear to be difficult to obtain in the UK ..but fully intend to asap
I'll leave it to others to recommend receivers ..as I have limited experience of whats available.
fwiw ..I have an old Nokia 9600 with a blindscan tuner ...which gain-wise puts many modern receivers to shame.
rgds
VS

emission

Thank you Vipersan

I have used (Invacom Universal Single LNB 0.3dB Horn )

-http://www.satshop.tv/Invacom-Universal-Single-LNB-03dB-Horn-SNH-031

and it suppose to be high performance
but the result was disaster and as you see even the price is higher than the one which you mention

now I am using very normal one with no name on it !

I didn’t understand why you recommended this LNB ?

bigtee

Some good lock threshold receivers I have experience of include:

(a) Fortec Star FSIR 5400 - its own signal quality meter lock threshold is about 33% - which, in a way, reflects how it secures a lock on a low signal when e.g. the Technomate 1500 would not;

(b) Phoenix Apollo MC-CI - this is another that secures lock at about the 33-35% mark; in fact it is similar to the Openbox mentioned earlier and indeed is often converted into an Openbox by using unofficial software

(c) The Technomate 5400 super is also very good and is better at locking low signals than its predecessor, the TM 1500 (which itself isn't that bad per se).

sonnetpete

Hi Emission,

Just to reinforce what Vipersan said, I use an Inverto Black Ultra on a 1m Gibertini. As I write I'm receiving Nilesat verticals and horizontals, with no drop out or break up. I continue to get some of the stronger horizontal transponders during the day if we have clear weather. I would imagine with your location and slightly bigger dish you could get similar results. (no guarantees of course )

I have used _www.hm-sat-shop.de recently to purchase both a dish and receiver. They do stock the Black Ultra. Whilst they may not be quite the cheapest out there I can recommend their service very highly.

Good luck,

Pete

Vipersan

Hi again ..
I only recommended this LNB because it appears to be highly regarded on this and various other boards as to its high gain /low noise capabilities ..
Many users believe it to be the best fringe reception lnb available for offset dishes..
There are many threads on the board searching for the 'holy grail' of lnbs ..
the Black Ultra appears at the top of this list in a lot of those threads.

here is one such clip >

Originally Posted by Huevos
"The Inverto Black Ultra has been amazing here. For my application the S/N with this LNB has been superior to all of the following: the Invacom C120 quad plus CM feed, the Smart Titanium, and the Darkgold, all known to be excellent choices. I haven't tried the Inverto Silvertech twin."

Do a search and read what is posted on the subject ..
..then its just a question of making up your mind

emission

Thank you all for reply

what about (ab com ipbox 9000 hd plus|) receiver

any bady have experience with it ?

Vipersan

Hi emission..
No bad experiences with my IP9000HD so far ..
I had a friend mount seperate partitions on the Hard drive ...so that I could have multiple boot images on the box..
I currently run NLB (dgstation ) image in the box flash ..
And 2 x different Enigma 2 images on the Hard drive.
I absolutely love this box ...
HD pictures are stunning ..
,,and real easy menus to navigate.
My only complaint is that the E2 images dont control 2 motorised dishes 'correctly' ..
Occasionally the software gets confused as to which dish is in use ..and moves the wrong one.
This doesn't happen under NLB ..so I keep that software as the default in the flash.
Its a real 'geek' box ..and I wouldn't suggest it suitable for novices..as you have to be prepared for experimentation ..as the images develop.
An excellent choice though ..if you like to get involved with your stb ..and not just watch TV.
Mine is equipped with 2x HD dvbs2 tuners ..though you can swap one of these out for DVBT or DVBC should wish to.

The tuners are reasonably high gain ..for example ..I can get stable fringe reception of some Vertical Nilesat transponders for a few hours each day on a TD110 ...quite an achievement at my location..

any questions you have ..
feel free to ask ..and I'll help if I can
rgds
VS

Telia

How is the tuner of DM8000? is IPBOX 9000 better?

emission

Hello Vipersan

Thanks for the detailed very useful reply.
I still have a question though regarding the last part of your reply, the most important to me:

--The tuners are reasonably high gain ..for example ..I can get stable fringe reception of some Vertical Nilesat transponders for a few hours each day on a TD110 ...quite an achievement at my location--

This is what really matters to me, i.e. the sensitivity of the reception and the possibility to record on an external HD

Another question is: what about Humax receivers? I've heard they're very good boxes but not that performant at fringe reception, how would you compare the two in this regard?

Appreciate your help

Vipersan

Hi m8 ..
Regarding the tuner sensitivity issue ..
I really can't compare to much as I haven't access to other receivers.
What I will say is that some of our friends on this group were quite surprised to hear that I could get a lockable signal at 53.5 N ...the assumption being I was too far North in the UK ..
You could of course just put that down to the dish and lnb ...but I believe the tuner in the IPbox can take some credit ..
I tried the same channels on an old Echostar receiver ..and the IPbox outperformed it.

The only other receiver I have tried is my Humax HDCI2000 ..which also has a good tuner ..
It too produces good watchable pictures between 7:30 pm and 10:30 pm on the vertical transponders...but of course that stb has no provision for recording.
The IP9000HD has both ..
a good tuner(s) and you can fit an internal hard drive for your recording needs ..
recorded files can then ftp'd out off the drive for archiving.
Hope this helps
Perhaps others might comment regarding other receiver options ?
rgds
VS