Dish size info for Nilesat 7W in western Europe & the UK

**nanochickin** · 18-11-2007

I've managed to get a few of the Vertical transponders in the Midlands on my 90cm dish.

Mostly stuff like Bahrain TV on 11823 V and Nojoom 1 on 11785 V

Nano

**canofan** · 18-11-2007

Actually, Turok, it is Atlanticbird2 on 8°W.
Yes we receive this strongly as you say, in Belgium, because it is a central european satellite. I tried and receive it with a 50 cm dish.

Keano! In another thread you said that you receive nilesat 12399H and that it is one of your best transponders.
This makes me very hopeful about receiving all transponders on the Nilesat wide beam with a CM 180 with feedhorn.

**keano** · 19-11-2007

m8 12399H is very strange, if you move the dish between 7.0w and 8.0w it gets stonger.

Example if I have my dish spot on 7.0w, 12399H will be about 22% on technomate then give dish a slight nudge to the west and it will jump up to some where about 30% but in doing so I lose 11996H.

Before anyone says its not 12399H on 8.0w.

Its Al Maser TV etc.

It could be that slight nudge is the difference between middle east beam and wide beam.

**olisun** · 19-11-2007

Originally Posted by keano

m8 12399H is very strange, if you move the dish between 7.0w and 8.0w it gets stonger.

Example if I have my dish spot on 7.0w, 12399H will be about 22% on technomate then give dish a slight nudge to the west and it will jump up to some where about 30% but in doing so I lose 11996H.

Before anyone says its not 12399H on 8.0w.

Its Al Maser TV etc.

It could be that slight nudge is the difference between middle east beam and wide beam.

I have also the seen the same behaviour... to get most of the horizontal channels, I have to move my dish to the left towards 5.0W

**canofan** · 20-11-2007

Wow!

Strange yes. But are we not starting from the wrong premises?
12399H in the Nilesat set of satellites: NS101, NS102, AB4.
It is on AB4.

Since in physics, zero is a monster that should never be mentioned.
Those satellites are not exactly in the same point in the sky; they simply could not..

This why a little "nudge", as you say, would bring AB2 in the focus of your dish.

But what amazes me is that somebody else may have to "nudge it" in the opposite direction.

**keano** · 20-11-2007

Totally agree m8, thats what makes this hobby so interesting.

What is a little nudge on the ground works out to be a few miles difference out in space.

Yes even though the sats are at 7.0w they are spaced out and would not make a difference to people under the footprint but those of us that are not then it makes a big difference.

**canofan** · 22-11-2007

I am so pleased you like this site.

AB4 is on 7.2W. By nudging it you recuperate 1/5°. And that is a few miles as you said, Keano.

**keano** · 23-11-2007

Originally Posted by canofan

I am so pleased you like this site.

AB4 is on 7.2W. By nudging it you recuperate 1/5°. And that is a few miles as you said, Keano.

No probs m8, we're here to help each other

jackson50 · 04-12-2007

Hi Keano - Are you still picking up the horizontal beams on your 2.4 channel master mate.

**keano** · 06-12-2007

Originally Posted by jackson50

Hi Keano - Are you still picking up the horizontal beams on your 2.4 channel master mate.

yep all H beams good here apart from 11804H which is very very weak, I do see it at about 22.00-06.00.

vma · 03-01-2008

Hi,

I get Nilsat with my 100cm rotating dish in Northern Portugal.

See this link for spectrum images: _http://www.geocities.com/dazed1970/spectrum/index.htm

Cheers,
vma

FORKS · 16-01-2008

7 West / Nilesat
I got my first lock and picture on H transponders this morning using a 1M orbital and Technomate Tms1500 / SHARP Lnb. Location West London.

kimbo · 27-01-2008

Okay on a 2.4m Channel master in the Midlands.

**T_G** · 27-01-2008

Update: With my 1.2 dish in western Germany I get a lot of verticals, but also a whole bunch of stations in horizontal, but only on one transponder : 117660. I also get a very weak signal on horizontal transponder 123030, but too week to really watch it as it breaks down all the ime.

**Robbo** · 28-01-2008

In Kent I get:-

11747V-pixelated
11785V-pixelated
11823V- all channels good
11862V-all channels good ($ ones can't see but % high enough to)
11938V-all channels good
12015V-all channels good
12054V-just the odd flicker of picture occasionally
12130V-all channels good
12207V-very pixelated-unwatchable

No Horizontal transponders at all.

1m Orbital Dish, motorised,Inverto Silvertech 0.2dB twin.

**canofan** · 28-01-2008

At the moment in Belgium, when the weather is not too thick, with my CM120 +invacom QTH-31, I get all vertical and horizontal channels on Nilesat 1 and 2, those positioned exactly at 7°W. When it becomes thicker, some of the horizontals start to flicker. I get absolutely nothing from AB4 at 7.2°W, even in brilliant weather.

**Robbo** · 04-02-2008

Originally Posted by Robbo71

In Kent I get:-

11747V-pixelated
11785V-pixelated
11823V- all channels good
11862V-all channels good ($ ones can't see but % high enough to)
11938V-all channels good
12015V-all channels good
12054V-just the odd flicker of picture occasionally
12130V-all channels good
12207V-very pixelated-unwatchable

No Horizontal transponders at all.

1m Orbital Dish, motorised,Inverto Silvertech 0.2dB twin.

Now got a 110cm Triax and getting:-

11747V-all good
11786V-all good
11823V-all good
11862V-all good
11900V-all good
11938V-all good
11977V-all good
12015V-all good
12054V-all good
12130V-all good
12207V-all good
12284V-all good
11919H- Got a lock, but just on the limit of receiver sensitivity so no channels.

So a Triax 110cm, definite improvement over a 1m Orbital.

**Topper** · 04-02-2008

Originally Posted by Robbo71

So a Triax 110cm, definite improvement over a 1m Orbital.

You see yet another fine example where size matters

**charly20** · 05-04-2008

in Brussels, Belgium:

Dish: 240cm PFA Aerial Oy from Finland
LNB: Inverto Quattro
Receiver: Dreamboxes

Results:

I get excellent reception on vertical and horizontal transponders for both Nilesat and for AB4.

***Turok*** · 05-04-2008

Hello Charly,nice,.to see you also on this board

welcome!

my invacom quad flagne is gone,over the wintertime,when i was not here,now i replace it with the new mti 0.3 db!

dont find any contact adreses in google,of invacom germany,to send back for replacement?any ideas?

**Uk2cyp** · 05-04-2008

Hi

I receive 11862V and 12015V most of the time.
Other verticals come in after dark
Its very critical on a 80cm.I need a bigger dish for this sat

Excellent signal in cyprus on all tpx

Regards

**charly20** · 05-04-2008

Hi Hans,

no idea for contact info of Invacom in Germany. Why don't you contact them directly in the UK?

FORKS · 07-04-2008

"7 West / Nilesat
I got my first lock and picture on H transponders this morning using a 1M orbital and Technomate Tms1500 / SHARP Lnb. Location West London."

UPDATE

Just purchased a Triax 110cm.

24hrs on all V transponders
19000 v and 12054V fade when it rains during 2-5pm.

Most H transponders lock in fine weather and light cloud.
11919 H being the strongest.
The signal improves at 8.30pm.

No H transponders when it rains or even light drizzle.

Location - West london 51.3N

mike

pedro2000uk · 14-06-2008

7w Nilesat Mid UK (Cheshire)

1.1 Triax + Sharp .3 & ...1m CM c120 MTI .6 ch feedhorn through Technomate TMS1000 30m cable run close trees at 7w not tweaked for 7w
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We get all the verts and breaching on 11919h

11862v City 7___________56%

11823v Bahrain__________56%

11785v Bubai One________52%
11972v MTV Arabia_______50%
12015v Smile TV_________47%
11940v MBC2____________44%
12130v Al Jadeed________42%
12054v OTV_____________39%
11900v Kuwait ch2 _______38% low
12195v PSC_____________38% low
12284v JSC Sports_______38% low
12207v BBC Arabic_______37% low
10719v Hanibal__________35% low break up

11919h ALKAWTHAR______33% breaching

Have too many channels to list

**Robbo** · 14-06-2008

I managed to get a few of the H transponders including Showtime the other week on my Triax 110 in Kent, the exception rather that the rule.

Still got excited for a moment though.

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