ITV HD Humax HDCI-2000

developers

Have you downloaded the formula program from Humax? It allows you to edit your channel list if you have a null modem serial lead and a serial port on a pc. (Lead easy and cheap to get). Then you can upload your channel list from your receiver to PC (save it to a name you like) and open mine posted above in a different window. Then copy and paste the entry for ITV HD, save (to a new file name on your pc), then download back to the set top box. I think it may be neccesary to add a channel called Brit Shorts first by scanning 11426 H 2/3 and saving the channel which uses the same frequency hence when you paste my entry it will match your available transponder list.

The program is quite straight forward to use as long as you know the box must be off until after you click upload/download then waiting for a connection appears then switch on and wait and process should begin. Don't switch off again after download until standby or your start up channel is in the receiver display.

Let me know if I haven't got the problem correctly.
Jem

supperfan

With all the good advice on this thread I managed to get my box (Humax HDCI-2000) to display the ITV HD signal, however this morning after around 12 seconds the picture goes off and the message "Reference 13 - This channel/broadcast is currently not sending" if you put the box in standby and then back on the picture comes back but again only for 12 seconds until the same message is displayed.

Anybody seeing the same???

0bigears

My HDCI 2000 flashes black after about this length of time, but then clears and is OK for as long as you care to watch.

I have SW ver. 15 - if that helps.

Still OK as of today.

Bob Warriner

I'm using version 11 software, ITVHD is faultless, in fact they were transmitting normal programming this morning...GMTV...the picture quality was so good via HDMI 1080i, I thought for a moment that they were transmitting in HD, the upscaling capability of the 2000 is outstanding.
Can't wait for some sport to really show it off
Rgds Bob.

supperfan

My issue was software related, updated from version 7 to 15 off Hotbird and all OK now.

developers

Bob Warriner I would like to know how to tell if its transmitted in HD or not as you say.
Jem

iroko

What you are saying is, upgrade software via 13 degrees (transponder please) then re-scan, then bang ITV HD is on my box?

developers

Box should auto update on 13 e when you power on usually, transponder info on manufacturers website _http://www.humaxdigital.com/hcsa/softwareupgrade.asp or use null modem cable and v15 file posted elsewhere on forum by llew HUMAX HDCI-2000 thread post 426 then you'll need to follow my proceedure above, it won't just tune in as they appear to have tried to hide it unless you buy their box.
Jem

Bob Warriner

Quite frankly, it was difficult to tell the difference, it looked as good as BBCHD at the time, the only thing that I thought may have given it away was the fact that the was no HD logo, but of course, they are still in testing mode, so that may not be significant.
Rgds Bob.

Bob Warriner

Just wondered if by upgrading the software to Ver 15 you can still get CH4HD? I thought that there was an issue with that version and the reception of CH4HD, that's why we generally use version 11.
Rgds Bob.

David J Robinson

No, the only version that will get C4HD (albeit with bad lip sync) is version 11. The only merit I found with V15 is that the programme info display is less bad - the info is not cropped at 80 characters but it still misses words out...

developers

David
Obigears says he gets CH4 HD with v15 but I'm one of those who get audio only. Can't be bothered sorting it out as the lip sync must be about 1 sec out. Can't understand why its so bad. Beyond the scope of the adjustment on HDCI 2000
Jem

0bigears

I can get Ch4 HD with terrible lip sync using motorised dish and V15 software. I do this:-

Go to either HD Suisse (encoded at the moment) or, Premiere HD and then use the LAST button to switch back to CH4 HD. This clears, but lip sync makes it unwatchable.

I have no idea why the sync is so bad - when all the other HD channels are in sync.

skomedal

Hi have been following this thread, i also have a hummy2000... but i see it only has v8 loaded, my question is what is the frequency on hotbird + other details fec etc, to do a manuel upgrade of the software to v15,,,,

and i have loaded premiere sport & direkt into the box, so how do i get the sub- channels to clear with the remote??????

ps,,, only got my hummy yesterday,,, so am gratefull for all the help that you can give me!!!!

developers

skomedal look at my post 33 above for details of upgrade and see channel lists at HUMAX HDCI-2000 thread where all the work has been done for you. When you download the list the sport and direkt channels all have their own name so you can use the channel changer not the red button etc.
Jem

David J Robinson

I've been fiddling around with the ITV HD settings, and I find that the brief dropout after 8 seconds can be fixed by setting PMT ID to 8192 (which the Humax seems to use as a 'not set' setting). The only side effect of this is to lose the Dolby symbol on the info bar, however the sound itself is still Dolby.

Another curiosity is that setting the SID to the value suggested elsewhere (10510) results in no picture as the VPID is overwritten with 8192. This presumably is one of the 'counter measures' used by ITV to limit reception to Freesat boxes.

I've been trying to find some info as to exactly what the SID (Service ID) does, but without success. Wikipedia for example has details of PAT, PMT, VPID etc. but nothing on SID. Any ideas anyone for a source of info?

Llew

I think it's the receiver that sets the vpid to 8192 (invalid or dummy pid) if it recognises the stream as audio only?

A paragraph of explanation here -

_www.technisat.com/index1d69.html?nav=Satellite_glossary,en,38&index= S

So perhaps setting the SID to '0' doesn't restrict the receiver to a defined vpid or apid value? (guesswork on my part )

Llew

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Bob Warriner

Hi David, I find that when switching to ITVHD the picture is there in all it's glory but without sound, after about 8 seconds the picture dissappears for a fraction of a second and returns with the sound.

This is not something that concerns me as they are still in testing mode, but just wondered if that was what you were trying to eliminate.

I've always been impressed by the Humax HDCI-2000, and if ITVHD is resolvable on this receiver when they start normal transmissions I will probably use that instead of the FoxsatHD box and the red button facility, I'm not too fussed about an EPG on a receiver, but I realise that it is necessary on the PVR of course.

I must confess to switching over to ITVHD quite frequently in the hope that they are back to normal programming....much to my wife's annoyance the GMTV transmissions on Friday morning were stunning.

I would be interested to know whether anyone has experimented with the audio pids on CH4HD, I can't believe that there isn't an answer to this somewhere, the lipsync problem is very annoying .
I suppose the only hope is that it is sorted out by the time they go over to FreeSat and then we will all know the audio settings

Rgds Bob.

ANDY COTTAM

THANK YOU i have struggled with this for months, and
got lost because of lack of help and guidance, this is tremendous

ANDY COTTAM

Thank you for this

David J Robinson

Just to confirm, these are the settings I am using:

SID: 0 (or 65535)
PMT PID: 3400
VPID: 3401
APID: 3402
PCR PID: 3401
SUBTITLE PID: 0
TELETEXT PID: 8192

When I tune to the channel I get vision and sound (Dolby), the info banner shows HD and 1080i and the OPT+ button is dead. After the 8 second 'bump', the info banner also shows subtitles and Dolby and the OPT+ button shows subtitles 'subtitle1' and audio (Dolby) 'sound1'.

If I take the PMT PID setting out, the 8 second bump never happens.

The 8 second reset appears to be caused by not having a valid SID, because as a test I tried taking out SID on BBC HD, and it then behaves exactly like ITV HD.

What we are going to need eventually, is for some clever person to come up with the right subtitle PID. At the moment I have put in one more than the audio PID as a guess - I await an actual programme to see if this works.

Slightly OT, the Channel 4 HD problem I believe is a Humax software bug. It is being transmitted on a Sky transponder, and the lipsync problem occurs on all Sky HD channels (that I can get anyway). I believe that when the Humax sees a PCR PID that is different from the VPID and the channel is HD then the Humax does not use the PCR properly and therefore the lip sync is unlocked and drifts. Humax blame the CAM but they would say that, wouldn't they?

When C4HD goes FTA it will be on a different transponder which may have the side effect of fixing the lipsync, if VPID = PCR PID.

Now that Humax have their Freesat boxes to think about, we can surely kiss goodbye to any faint hope of bug fixes for the HDCI2000.

shop91

Hi,

Just having connected up 2 Humac HCDI2000, one running version 7 & one version 15 software, both have no sound on ITV HD, using the reccomended settings. I also don't see the 8 second glitch.
Any ideas?

Thanks.

developers

When I found out the way to get this sorted (see post 2 above) I could ONLY get sound and vision following that proceedure exactly. It worked on 11 and 15 firmware tested by me - no idea about v 7. Did you follow my method?
Jem

Hans

Hi everybody

I did exactly as developers has written in post 2, and it works with versions 11, 13, and 15. The only problem I’ve got is that the box gets sometimes stuck, and I have to reset.

shop91

Hmmm, settings seem to be exactly the same....
One thing that has occured to me, is there sound on the HDMI on ITV HD, or indeed any sound on the test loop?

Thanks.