FTA Premiership Matches

***Rob*** · 14-08-2004

Not all bad news it seems but not far off.
For the opening day of the season while TV Sport Ro is a non starter, there are still some free to air games being shown.
Today (Saturday) there is Spurs v Liverpool on NTV Turkey at 42 east, BBT at 1 west, and Telesport Ro at 4 west.
Best bet is NTV can just pick it up with my 70 cm dish.

On Sunday Everton v Arsenal on Lider TV at 36 east (think it is fta), and on NTV Turkey at 42 east although there is a delayed showing of this 6-15

***Rob*** · 14-08-2004

Seems we have a problem with NTV Turkey. Time now 1-50pm Saturday afternoon and no game on the box.
Can someone translate this message which is on the tv screen;
Premier League Maci Nedeniyle
NTV Avrupa Yayinina
Ara Vermek Zorundayiz
Yayinimiz Macin Ardinda
Normal Akisina Donecek. it's all Greek to me

**englishman64** · 17-08-2004

BBT at 1 deg West ?
I tried tuning that one in but no joy
I would have assumed that as it's FTA I would have no bother
I have a humax 5400 with a 6 in 1 fun card.
Do I need a particaular type of LNB ?
Any advice gratefully appreciated

**BGonaSTICK** · 17-08-2004

It's on Thor 3 eastern Europe beam, and so not easy to receive without a 1.0m+ dish.

h**p://www.thor-satellites.com/index.php?click0=3&click1=2&click2=3&sel0=3&sel1=2 &sel2=3&

**englishman64** · 18-08-2004

Thanks for the link
I'm in Newcastle Upon Tyne with a 1 Metre Dish
The footprint seems to come pretty close to where I am.
Would it be reasonable to expect some sort of signal
When I check the signal strength I get a signal level of 33% and a Signal Quality of 0%.

**BGonaSTICK** · 18-08-2004

It's not an exact science, but I think that the readings you're getting are about right, i.e. not quite enough... you are really on the fringe.

A 1.0M dish in East Anglia would probably do it, but you may need a 1.2M or even bigger.

I can't get a sniff on a 90cm, and I'm right on the fringe too.

**englishman64** · 18-08-2004

Thanks for that
I'm pushing it with neighbours with a 1m dish so looks like I'm snookered
I might have to try 4 deg W for my Saturday footie
It seems there is a Romanian Channel there what gets the games

**BGonaSTICK** · 18-08-2004

Yes, there is very little FTA Prem. footie this year. Not much to watch unless you go the card/CAM route.

At least there's Match of the Day on Saturday and Sunday though!

UKJ · 18-08-2004

sorry to sound dumb but can i ask what is the card/CAM route?

if you don't ask - you'll never know!

**englishman64** · 18-08-2004

Next Quest
Channel Telesport TV seems to be free to air on Amos Sat on 4 deg W
Before I mess about with my motorised dish should I be able to get that Sat.

**Nismo400R** · 18-08-2004

Where abouts are you located?? Should be able to get it (Just) in the south east of England.

**BGonaSTICK** · 18-08-2004

Originally Posted by englishman64

Next Quest
Channel Telesport TV seems to be free to air on Amos Sat on 4 deg W
Before I mess about with my motorised dish should I be able to get that Sat.

Hmm, again, I think you will be lucky.

You've probably seen all this but if not, have a look at h**p://www.knplogic.co.uk/sport/ to see the channels the footy is on, then check h**p://www.lyngsat.com/ to find the satellite and channel etc, then you can link to the satellite footprints on the right of the channel definitions.

**BGonaSTICK** · 18-08-2004

Originally Posted by UKJ

sorry to sound dumb but can i ask what is the card/CAM route?

if you don't ask - you'll never know!

You can get a gadget called a CAM (Conditional Access Module) into which (in most cases) you will need to insert a valid smartcard (viewing card) to decrypt the channels you require. There are many different types of both CAMs and cards.

***Rob*** · 20-08-2004

Just been looking at LJ's for the footy fixtures on TV this Sunday and for the Arsenal v
Middlesbrough game NTV & Lider are both due to show it.
One has it as FTA(Mpeg) the other as FTA(Encrypt), can anybody explain what the (Mpeg) & (Encrypt) stand for seeing as both channels are free-to-air.
Thanks Rob.

**Analoguesat** · 21-08-2004

Lider are scrambling their sports content - they have been knocking out the Olympics programming on 13E this week.

Mpeg is the digital transmission standard.

I see the Bulgarian station BBT is now also listed as being scrambled. The availability of fta footy for those who want it is really being squeezed.

**jimbo** · 22-08-2004

I think BBT is on the East Beam and needs a biggish dish.

***Rob*** · 28-08-2004

Originally Posted by Rob

Seems we have a problem with NTV Turkey. Time now 1-50pm Saturday afternoon and no game on the box.
Can someone translate this message which is on the tv screen;
Premier League Maci Nedeniyle
NTV Avrupa Yayinina
Ara Vermek Zorundayiz
Yayinimiz Macin Ardinda
Normal Akisina Donecek. it's all Greek to me

This message is still showing on NTV, can somone translate this message.

**Analoguesat** · 28-08-2004

I suspect it means that the football is only available on the east beam transmission of NTV on 42E.

NTV is radiated on 2 beams, the S1 which is the transmission we can - just - get in western Europe, and an east beam which points out towards Turkey.....

***Rob*** · 28-08-2004

Could well be right AG, just wish we could find a way of translating that bloody message so we could be sure.
Tried this channel during the week, when no football was on, but it still had the same message in place.
Seems strange that they would shut down the channel, not impossible I know, or maybe it will start up again soon !

**Analoguesat** · 28-08-2004

OK lets use some on line tools. Its going to be rough & ready but what the hell. ?? represents words the sites wont / cant translate....

Premier League Maci Nedeniyle
Premier League ?? reason

NTV Avrupa Yayinina
NTV Europe publishing

Ara Vermek Zorundayiz
Interruption Give up ??

Yayinimiz Macin Ardinda
Publishing ?? in the wake of

Normal Akisina Donecek
Normal ?? ??

Hmm not very good is it

I think it means "bye bye Europe".

**BGonaSTICK** · 28-08-2004

The only words I could translate were 'Give Up', so I did

Sounds like you're right, although you do know that you can stream some Premiership matches over the web (if you have a FAST broadband connection)?

Like:-

NTV of Turkey: http://mms01.bnet.net.tr/ntvlive/ - 80 kbps (shows live Saturday afternoon Premiership matches, recommended that you get on early)
Shaanxi Sports: mms://219.144.234.181/live-sxtvs7 - 150 kbps (excellent quality Premiership matches, recommended that you get on early)
Guangxi Sports: mms://219.159.67.106/gxty - 340 kbps (shows Sky matches)
Discovery Life of South Africa: http://www.jtzj.com/ffff.asx - 800 kbps (good for Saturday afternoon matches - high bandwidth connection required though)
UBC Star Sports: mms://218.97.224.196/fff/fff.asf - 200 kbps (shows lots of Premiership matches)
TV9 Thailand: mms://61.19.223.230/tv9_256k - 256 kbps (occasionally shows Satuday Premiership matches, also live Bundesliga games - excellent quality streams)
ZTV6: mms://220.189.192.60/live06 - 450 kbps (good for Saturday morning matches, an ESPN channel)
MBC Korea: http://stream.andongmbc.co.kr/tv.htm (Fantastic quality, shows live Champions League games)
Gold Sport: mms://218.97.224.196/ggg
TV Djalmajica of Hungary: rtsp://videolive.hinet.hr/encoder/tvdalmacija.rm - 225 kbps (shows Premiership games on Saturdays and Sundays)
RTS2 of Serbia and Montenegro: http://www.rts.co.yu/rts2live.ram - 100 kbps (good alternative for Sunday afternoon and Monday night matches matches, Real Player)
ESPN of China: http://www.go01.com/live/zjty4.asx
IRIB 3 of Iran: http://www.irib.ir/live/tv3.asx - 45 kbps (shows live Saturday games, only recommended as last resort as quality of stream is poor)
CCTV-5: http://www.go01.com/live/cctv5_2.htm (Web Page)
RAI Sport - mms://218.97.224.196/fff/fff.asf - 800 kbps (excellent for Serie A matches)

***Rob*** · 28-08-2004

Nice one Stick will have to give this one a go. I have a 750 speed rating so will try tomorrow (unless I'm in the pub) or next weekend.

**BGonaSTICK** · 29-08-2004

You'll probably be disappointed with the quality after watching on sat (although one or two are actually quite good these days...), and you may have to try loads of times (especially at busy periods, like when there's a match on!!!) but this is how I started off, before I got into satellite.

Find a good server, and the picture is watchable. It's not ideal, but it's better than listening to the radio!

STICK

incubus · 01-09-2004

hi bob;

I am from turkey and ı know the answers that you asked about translation
only people where live in turkey can watch NTV Turkey at teh match time (premiership)
but at the end of the live match broadcast all people can watch ntv turkey

why dont you watch premiership on hispasat over tv cabo ? sport tv, gran via2

***Rob*** · 02-09-2004

Thanks for that incubus, just confirms what we thought.
Can't watch on Hispasat as it is encyrpted, and I am too mean to pay.

Nice one for any Bolton fans as there friendly match away to Sevilla on Saturday is live on Andalucia TV on 19 east, also FTA. (k.o. 9 pm)

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