Satellite Dish Cranes

thomas34461usa · 11-03-2008

Hello,
Has anyone ever heard of a "Dish Crane" for using to take off and putting on a satellite dish off and on the support pole? Can't find any reference in them. May be of a different name? The Dish Crane can be used by one person to take off and put on a dish. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Tom

**Robbo** · 11-03-2008

Maybe a hydraulic floor crane would do the job.

Robbo

***Zorba*** · 11-03-2008

Over here we use/hire a telescopic fork lift truck to lift big dishes as high as 6 floors

**Channel Hopper** · 15-03-2008

If it is a small dish (up to 2 metres) a simple A frame using two long scaffold poles can be used, in much the same way as an engine hoist.

For larger dishes and for installation on a tall building, it is worth looking at a mobile crane, where installation of a multi panel reflector can be assembled on the ground, and then hoisted into place.

I would strongly advise having at least two people present on either job, one to lift, and one to knock the important bolts into place.

***Zorba*** · 15-03-2008

We pull up 3m dishes by rope. 2 of us,2 ropes up to 9/10 floors. The brackets/stands go up in the lift or up the stairs.

**Channel Hopper** · 16-03-2008

Originally Posted by zorba

We pull up 3m dishes by rope. 2 of us,2 ropes up to 9/10 floors. The brackets/stands go up in the lift or up the stairs.

The question was wrt attaching a dish to a mount.

I have pulled a 2m dish up the side of a six storey building in light winds, not recommended.

thomas34461usa · 03-05-2008

I made some post here previously to this site in regards to Dish Cranes. Although I do live in Florida in the States it is my love of Big Dishes or BUDS that we all have in common. It is also that your site is from the UK and that my Grandparents came from the UK as well. Who knows I may find people who live in the same town as they did or even find missing relatives? Who Knows?? Anyway the Internet site that I mostly use for our hobby is _www.SatelliteGuys.us here in the states. I’ve been doing a thread called Dish Cranes in action. When ever I come up with information on the Dish Crane wither it comes to me in person or off the net I post it.
I asked here before about them and I thought I would share here what I have found.

As written on a post at SatelliteGuys website:
I made some inquires about a "Dish Crane" before and have even spoken of the fact that a dish crane was used on the Unimesh dish I got from the out of business satellite dish owner. I thought it was an amazing tool to have and made some inquires about it here and also some Internet searches for some. Could find any listed. I spoke to Linuxman and he said it was referred by some of the old timers as a dish crane. Still I couldn't come up with anything with the name of Dish Crane. Some of you may be aware of what I'm talking about, some may not.

Anyway the other night I'm on Yahoo and checking out some of their Yahoo Groups for Big Satellite Dishes and came up with these images. The first one is a shot of a satellite dish with a bent Quad Leg.

Then it moves on to them putting on the dish crane to the support pole and then hooking up the dish that’s laying on the ground.

Then bringing it up to the top of the pole and bolting on the mount to the pole.

The final images are of the dish being hooked into position and them doing the fine tuning. The Dish Crane makes the job a lot easier.

Notice Dish Crane is now lying on the ground. Everything is hooked up. If any of you have a Dish Crane please post your images of them here so that we all can see them and benefit from having one for ourselves!

Thanks,
Tom

**Turok** · 03-05-2008

Very good topic this,here are some nice pictures,from my archive

crane removing nice andrew antennas,for destroying...

**HB13DISH** · 03-05-2008

Originally Posted by Turok

Very good topic this,here are some nice pictures,from my archive

crane removing nice andrew antennas,for destroying...

Nice photos Turok.

What are the dishes size?

thomas34461usa · 03-05-2008

Originally Posted by Turok

Very good topic this,here are some nice pictures,from my archive

crane removing nice andrew antennas,for destroying...

Hello Turok,
Those are real photo's showing them putting a satellite dish in olace on top of a tall building. While some of us on the other side of the pond - in the states mostly have single dwellng homes. Is that the same case there in the UK or are the buildings all tall. I have never been to theUK but would one day like to. On the Dish Cranes that I'm trying to feature here are the one man do it yourself crane. I have seen them in action and its amazing how fast they can make the job go. I have other examples of dish cranes that I have found searching the Internet and will enclose some images here. So please everyone, if this thread rekindles any memory of Dish Cranes lets share them here!I think we can all benefit from this by putting on your postings of them.

Thanks,
Tom

**Turok** · 03-05-2008

looks great thanx for your pictures again!

renting a crane here in europe,to put it on roof,it is very expensice!
@ the moment i dont know how much
andrew,here,does not ofer instalation service to private customrs,only for companys,
but normal sat companys,dont have this cranes,coz the normal sat houshold with 85 cm dish,dont need this

@ hb13 dish,the size is if i remember right 3,7 m,but i dont know exactly,long time ago 2 years!

when i find no crane,there is only the manual way,with a massiv rope, and minimum 4 people,to bring my 2,20 m tagra fullsize dish with 100 kg to the roof,somewhere in time,i want to this,bechause,i have only on roof 15 m high,free view to eastern satelites,but without help,alone,i cant handle this project ..!
it also depents what kind of roof you have,my one is not flat roof,and is very dagerous to climb on..!

thomas34461usa · 03-05-2008

Originally Posted by Turok

looks great thanx for your pictures again!

renting a crane here in europe,to put it on roof,it is very expensice!
@ the moment i dont know how much
andrew,here,does not ofer instalation service to private customrs,only for companys,
but normal sat companys,dont have this cranes,coz the normal sat houshold with 85 cm dish,dont need this

@ hb13 dish,the size is if i remember right 3,7 m,but i dont know exactly,long time ago 2 years!

when i find no crane,there is only the manual way,with a massiv rope, and minimum 4 people,to bring my 2,20 m tagra fullsize dish with 100 kg to the roof,somewhere in time,i want to this,bechause,i have only on roof 15 m high,free view to eastern satelites,but without help,alone,i cant handle this project ..!
it also depents what kind of roof you have,my one is not flat roof,and is very dagerous to climb on..!

Hello Turok,
Thanks for the quick responce. I found this and it may be of value to you and others who have tall builings. At least its an idea that may very well work for you or you can alter the design a bit to work for you. Here's the link. Let me know what you think, ok?
_http://www.spitzlift.net/products/wallsaddle.htm

Thanks,
Tom

thomas34461usa · 03-05-2008

Hello all,
Didn't know or happen to see the "Thank You button to the right. So thank you very much to all that have posted on this thread!
Thanks,
Tom

thomas34461usa · 04-05-2008

Originally Posted by Robbo71

Maybe a hydraulic floor crane would do the job.

Robbo

Well maybe if you were next to a building and the crane was on steady ground. Can't think it would be too good on a dirt surface were you would need to keep it balance and steady? Some suggested using a dry wall lift too. Again the use of it in the outdoors make it seem not the best tool.
Thanks,
Tom

thomas34461usa · 04-05-2008

Hello again,
This is going off target from the thread theme here of Dish Cranes. I didn't see another place to put it. It fact the reason I couldn't find it is also the whole reason that I writing this thread now.

In your Sub-Forums section to you have any topics that deal with Free To Air (FTA) Discussions and C-BAND Satellite Discussions? I would have thought for sure you would here at Satellites.co.uk. Please tell me it’s under a different name here. There's got to be some interest in the field of BUDS.

Just curious, Thanks,
Tom

**HB13DISH** · 04-05-2008

Originally Posted by thomas34461usa

Hello again,
This is going off target from the thread theme here of Dish Cranes. I didn't see another place to put it. It fact the reason I couldn't find it is also the whole reason that I writing this thread now.

In your Sub-Forums section to you have any topics that deal with Free To Air (FTA) Discussions and C-BAND Satellite Discussions? I would have thought for sure you would here at Satellites.co.uk. Please tell me it’s under a different name here. There's got to be some interest in the field of BUDS.

Just curious, Thanks,
Tom

Hello Tom,
Please remember that discussing sat systems in your area is forbidden.
Read the forum rules again before posting.

thomas34461usa · 04-05-2008

Originally Posted by HB13DISH

Hello Tom,
Please remember that discussing sat systems in your area is forbidden.
Read the forum rules again before posting.

OK, must have missed that part.

Only wanted to chat about the love of having a Big Dish that is. Sorry again. Maybe you would be so kind to point me to where those rules are again so I can read up on it again.

I really didn't want to do anything that was wrong here, please note that.

Tom

EDIT: I went back and found the rules. I found a sentence that stated this: We do not permit discussion of the North American Providers and encryptions
In no way was I talking or referring to any providers of the USA or UK nor any where else. I was just talking and trying to bring up the conversation of having a big dish as a hobby. Also when I say Free to Air that does not mean Stealing either. If there is something that I have missed in reading of these rules please be so kind to let me know. If this Website "Satellites.co.uk" has nothing to do with the hobby of C-Band, KU-Band, Free to Air and the disscussions of having a Big Dish please let me know that too. Maybe some of your members are interested in it like I am. Hope I didn't make any mistakes in my postings here.

Thank you,
Tom

**Topper** · 04-05-2008

Originally Posted by thomas34461usa

Hello again,
This is going off target from the thread theme here of Dish Cranes. I didn't see another place to put it. It fact the reason I couldn't find it is also the whole reason that I writing this thread now.

The section which could address your concerns with reference to inability to find your way around the site is here

Originally Posted by thomas34461usa

In your Sub-Forums section to you have any topics that deal with Free To Air (FTA) Discussions

FTA means something completely different to you over the pond. In Europe Free To Air means any satellite transmission that is transmitted unencrypted and in the clear, in your terminology it means any encrypted channel that is illegally hacked by the use of hex codes loopers and emu's to gain free access to pay channels

Originally Posted by thomas34461usa

and C-BAND Satellite Discussions?

Have a look here and you will note almost a complete absense of C band transmission satellites in our arc. For the few that feel it is worthwhile buying specialist equipment to receive a minimal amount of channels they generally tend to post in the the Indian section.

Originally Posted by thomas34461usa

I would have thought for sure you would here at Satellites.co.uk. Please tell me it’s under a different name here. There's got to be some interest in the field of BUDS.

Not much use for BUDS with Ku or C band transmissions unless one is in India or perhaps South Africa. There is not a lot in Europe that cannot be received with a 1mtr dish so why would anyone use bigger?

thomas34461usa · 04-05-2008

Originally Posted by Topper

The section which could address your concerns with reference to inability to find your way around the site is here

Thank you.

FTA means something completely different to you over the pond. In Europe Free To Air means any satellite transmission that is transmitted unencrypted and in the clear,[/quote]
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<P> in your terminology it means any encrypted channel that is illegally hacked by the use of hex codes loopers and emu's to gain free access to pay channels
[/quote]

No I think it is more of that if any programming comes in un-scrambled that can be viewed is Free to Air. If certain networks decide to encrypt it, it is no longer “Free To Air”. Like I stated earlier in another post not to steal Television programming.

Have a look here and you will note almost a complete absense of C band transmission satellites in our arc. For the few that feel it is worthwhile buying specialist equipment to receive a minimal amount of channels they generally tend to post in the the Indian section.

Not much use for BUDS with Ku or C band transmissions unless one is in India or perhaps South Africa. There is not a lot in Europe that cannot be received with a 1mtr dish so why would anyone use bigger?

Thank you,
Tom

**Topper** · 04-05-2008

Originally Posted by thomas34461usa

No I think it is more of that if any programming comes in un-scrambled that can be viewed is Free to Air. If certain networks decide to encrypt it, it is no longer “Free To Air”. Like I stated earlier in another post not to steal Television programming.
Thank you,
Tom

No you are incorrect if a programme is being un-scrambled as you put it that means it was already scrambled or encrypted and therefore the combination of stb, card and encryption system is doing the unscrambling or decryption, which makes the picture appear on the TV. That is not the case in Europe, FTA only refers to channels that are transmitted un-encrypted and therefore require nothing apart from a receiver to be viewed.

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