Amos 3 lit up

**Analoguesat** · 26-06-2008

Amos 3 is reported on air at 4W

Yes Package (10722 V) on Amos 3
Yes Package (10758 V) on Amos 3
Yes Package (10925 V) on Amos 3

all moved over according to flysat.

Any reception reports folks??

**Llew** · 26-06-2008

Way off footprint here in UK AS. Middle East beam. Maybe wait for the other beams to fire up.

Llew

**Analoguesat** · 26-06-2008

Yeas - I realised that later. Any of our Middle Eastern members care to have a look and tell us what the signal is like?

**HB13DISH** · 26-06-2008

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

Yeas - I realised that later. Any of our Middle Eastern members care to have a look and tell us what the signal is like?

Will do later on after work.

**HB13DISH** · 26-06-2008

Checked the signal strength for the three TPs
10722V
10758V
10925V
Unfortunately I am using the Nokia 9800S for Amos, which doesn't give the exact signal strength in percentage. It has a scale with 8 sections.
When I input the TPs parameters, the scale shoots almost up to the end of the scale, something like 90-95%, compared to 62% for another TP on Amos 2 which has two FTA channels,
There is certainly a big improvement in signal strength. Perhaps a much smaller dish will be enough for reception for all the channels on Amos 3.

**Turok** · 26-06-2008

@ moment heavey rain,i cant test it,but i think it will not work!
tell them,the should point the israel yess package also to europe

how many channels are in the package,can you post some pictures?
that i can see the tv logo,never seen yet

**Analoguesat** · 26-06-2008

_http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/yes.html

includes most of the logos

***Rd100*** · 26-06-2008

Receiving all active transponders on my 3.7m prodelin in south wales UK but nothing on my 1.8m

Prodelin · 26-06-2008

Originally Posted by Rd100

Receiving all active transponders on my 3.7m prodelin in south wales UK but nothing on my 1.8m

You have any pics of your 3.7m installation?

**Turok** · 27-06-2008

this is curencly still not amos 3 signal,many region reports that the signal strenth has not been change yet,couple of weaks ago,king of sat also reports some channels sending on amos 3,but it was not true!
we must wait again!
what is the website of amos?
can someone call there,to get further information?

**HB13DISH** · 27-06-2008

Originally Posted by Turok

this is curencly still not amos 3 signal,many region reports that the signal strenth has not been change yet,couple of weaks ago,king of sat also reports some channels sending on amos 3,but it was not true!
we must wait again!
what is the website of amos?
can someone call there,to get further information?

Hi Turok,
There is Yes Package details here:
Yes Israel Package on Amos 4W
Why do you need to contact Yes?
They will not respond if the inquiry is from overseas, as like all other country specific packages, they have to respect copyright laws which prevents them from giving subscriptions outside the country.
The channels are encrypted in NDS, and there are no FTA channels there whatsoever.
I am not a subscriber because they have a very expensive entry level package, therefore I can't attach any pictures.

**HB13DISH** · 27-06-2008

Originally Posted by Rd100

Receiving all active transponders on my 3.7m prodelin in south wales UK but nothing on my 1.8m

I presume that you are receiving the channels on the European beam and not the Middle Eastern beam.

**Turok** · 27-06-2008

no i meaned,you should contact the amos company not yes
to ask,when all transponders on amos 3 are activated,what is the reason that it takes so long time?

**HB13DISH** · 27-06-2008

Originally Posted by Turok

no i meaned,you should contact the amos company not yes
to ask,when all transponders on amos 3 are activated,what is the reason that it takes so long time?

It will be a total waste of time to contact the Amos company, as they have no obligation to respond to any kind of inquiries while the transponders are being tested.
As most of the Middle Eastern TPs will be utilized by Yes, I must admit that I have no personal interest in what they will do with them, unless they change their entry package price to a normal level.
You are welcome to try your luck, contact Spacecom and ask anything that you need to know, perhaps with regards the European beam (which I can't receive by the way)
_http://www.amos-spacecom.com
You can send them a web form or an e-mail. Look under Contact Us.

***Rd100*** · 27-06-2008

No i can receive middle east beams from all amos satellites on my 3.7m prodelin the Europe beams are easy received on my 1.2m,

Other satellies i can receive are eurobird 2 (orbit networks) 25.5 east on my 1.8m prodelin, Also in ku-band i can also receive the multichoice Africa package from 36 east,

But most of the time i use the 3.7m prodelin for c-band,

Originally Posted by HB13DISH

I presume that you are receiving the channels on the European beam and not the Middle Eastern beam.

**HB13DISH** · 27-06-2008

Originally Posted by Rd100

No i can receive middle east beams from all amos satellites on my 3.7m prodelin the Europe beams are easy received on my 1.2m,

Other satellies i can receive are eurobird 2 (orbit networks) 25.5 east on my 1.8m prodelin, Also in ku-band i can also receive the multichoice Africa package from 36 east,

But most of the time i use the 3.7m prodelin for c-band,

That's great.

Can you see the FTA channels Ch 2 and CH 10?
What is the minimum dish size that you would recommend for the Middle Eastern beam?

***deepbluesky*** · 27-06-2008

Originally Posted by Rd100

No i can receive middle east beams from all amos satellites on my 3.7m prodelin the Europe beams are easy received on my 1.2m,

Other satellies i can receive are eurobird 2 (orbit networks) 25.5 east on my 1.8m prodelin, Also in ku-band i can also receive the multichoice Africa package from 36 east,

But most of the time i use the 3.7m prodelin for c-band,

Almost i would have missed these very important news. 3.70m in SE Wales and you get all the Mideast Beam frequencies ? Have you checked one by one ? Amos 1 even in Athens makes problems on 3m and further north and west i never heard of any successfull reception. Amos 2 is much stronger. I never would have expected that somebody could catch it in the UK !!

***Rd100*** · 27-06-2008

I am not at home so i can not check at the moment but the middle east beam do have a fair signal but i think if i had very heavy rain the signal would drop out yesterday when i was at home i did a blind scan using technomate 5400 and i pulled in all active transponders when i get the chance i will post some photos up,

Also i am receiving them with the matched ku-band prodelin feedhorn and invacom c-120 signal output lnb

If the weather is fine on the weekend i will switch back over to my c-band feedhorn or dual c/ku lnb

Originally Posted by HB13DISH

That's great.
Can you see the FTA channels Ch 2 and CH 10?
What is the minimum dish size that you would recommend for the Middle Eastern beam?

***deepbluesky*** · 27-06-2008

I see. Would be great if you could list up which frequencies you do get. This would be of big help for anybody in Central and Western Europe.

AndyX · 27-06-2008

According to the official Amos website transmission frequencies are above 10950 on the Amos satellite:

* Ku band uplink : 14.00 to 14.50 GHZ
* Ku band downlink : 10.95 to 11.45 GHZ
* Ka band uplink : 29.40 to 30.60 GHZ
* Ka band downlink : 19.60 to 20.80 GHZ

***deepbluesky*** · 27-06-2008

AndyX this proves that flysat was wrong. The 3 frequencies cannot be on Amos 3. Well done, many thanks.

AndyX · 27-06-2008

This does not rule out that there has been an increase of power on Amos 2 that may be causing confusion, or that a steerable beam, operating on an unpublished frequency by Amos, has come into play. I have merely quote what Amos has chosen to publish.

***deepbluesky*** · 27-06-2008

Probably. We'll see what the next steps will be.

P.S.: Spacecom has not published a handbook of Amos 3 as they did before for Amos 1/2. Those had much more details including very good footprints.

**HB13DISH** · 28-06-2008

I had a look at the Amos 3 EU beam footprint and compared it with the Amos 2 EU Beam FP.
It looks like there might be a better chance to receive some TPs from the Amos 3 EU beam in the Middle East than before.
Hope that my 1.2m dish would not fail me.
Picture on left is for Amos 2

**solly** · 08-07-2008

fetv 10986 h sr 6666 fec 3/4 on amos3

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