Michael Jackson, Saint or Sinner?

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Guilty as hell, needs locking up 38 50.00%
Not sure, can't make up my mind 8 10.53%
Innocent, being setup for money 10 13.16%
Guilty, but only of naivety 9 11.84%
Mad as a Hatter, should be pitied 11 14.47%
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Old 30-03-2005   #51
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Originally Posted by rolfw
The worst thing he could've done was pay off Chandler, it then gave anyone else an incentive to fabricate a story and let's face it, with the promise of a few million dollars you could fabricate a pretty good story.
Michael Jackson slept in my cornflakes in 1998. Please send me $25.
Creative writing was never my strong point. I know every story (errr, I mean account) should have a beginning, middle and ending, but FFS just send me the $25.

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remember the time, when them outside were willing to give you one more chance.... and now your in a jam and gonna get locked up, but you are not alone there will be times when you feel bad and you want to scream "leave me alone" when big bullies abuse you and dont stop till you get enough, they dont care about us. nasty joe the smooth criminal with the stutter will say say say...girl is mine go naked, force you to touch him and shout ... ohhh its the way you make me feel, grab it and beat it plastic features!!! i just cant stop loving you.....
think yourself lucky your not a pretty young thing.. anymore that would be a thriller for some of them cons, in prison it dont matter if your black or white your all treated the same... even if no-one found out about the little boys named ben and billie jean??
be careful at the prison dance too, if you show off too much they will bounce you off the wall threaten to break your legs... you will cry not my legs break another part of me!! and there will be blood on the dance floor.
you dont look like a big tough guy to me, you really dont wanna be starting something, dont rock my world its not your human nature... you cant win when nasty joe wants you....he'll say "give in to me"
when you get released nasty joe will cry goodbye my summer love...some people dont think you should be released, you should sit in old sparky and get 2000 watts

i dont think you will be a big star when you come out after all the monkey business, unless you heal the world first, you will have to be working day and night... and get yourself a proper girlfriend (as long as its not that dirty diana) cos its the falling in love that will make people feel better about you, and realise your not dangerous anymore, keep a low profile for a change and get some privacy.
i know its not as easy as ABC, try and enjoy yourself if you have nightmares at night, thinking there is someone in the dark, getting butterflies and being scared of the moon go to the bathroom and look at the man in the mirror and ask who is it? if all else fails, you can go and live with that stranger in moscow

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As the trail is nearly at an end, anyone changed their opinions?

(I reckon he's going to jail.)

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As the trail is nearly at an end, anyone changed their opinions? (I reckon he's going to jail.)
Never really had one other than him guilty of being depraved
and yes it may be true that he's on his way to jail but I understand his private jet is standing by to whisk him out of the country. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if he has already left!!!!

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Still not so sure, this family are as bent as nine bob notes and have already been proved to be fraudulent.

Stupid maybe, naive maybe, a sucker for a sob story maybe, just not sure about a pervert.

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All the alleged 'offences' seem to be very minor - like putting a hand somewhere, giving drinks, going through porn mags together etc. Surely even if these are true he is unlikely to be jailed for life. Nevertheless, as said earlier in this thread, if a grown man carries on sleeping with boys in his bed, even after being accused in the past, he is a compulsive perv, and a very stupid one !
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I'll admit to watching the SKY/FOX "we say it - you believe it" hollywood mock-up version. Beats 'Quincy' anyday.

While some of the actors actually acted, I would love to know how much the Jackson likey got in performance fees?

Their casting for the (actor/standup comic) Chris Tucker was outstanding. The guy not only looked like him, but that voice - that voice! If there were a job to go to after that performance (sic) it would be to star as CT in an American version of 'Spitting Image'.

As for the real thing (the case that is) and if I could ever begin to believe the "re-enacted from actual court transcript" drama - I think both sides have a lot to answer for.

Art became porno, mother was more interested in herself than the case in hand, some witnesses were more interested in making a quick buck than being of use on the stand: the list goes on and on ......

IMHO we have another OJ here - not for the alledged crime, but, how this is going to affect the man whatever verdict comes back. Basically, he's pretty much fook'd; whether he's in a cell, or, whether he's at home - waiting for a private suit. The aftermath of this kind of case is akin to a stubborn brown fish that won't rinse off the side of an unkempt bowl.

There is one thing for sure - Neverland was a good excuse for a court case. As such he should get rid of the bugger asap.

On a facile note: he'll probably sell more albums on the prison circuit than in the cruel wide world and he'll add some professional sparkle to the yearly revue, but, ...

On a personal note: I don't think any human deserves such a demeaning and, at times, voyouristic public mauling - fallen star or otherwise.

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I say he didnt do it because he thinks he a flippin child so y would he do that to other children. Its like to kill a mockingbird except this time they hate him because of his fame and fortune and i quote from the book, "it was a sin to kill a mockingbird...don't do anything but make music for us to enjoy" just like MJ her
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If he get sentenced to jail he will prolly kill himself by starving to death, he will never accept jail.
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From Sky TV reconstruction, all offered evidence has been very confusing. Only clear point is Jackson's a strange man, but we knew that already!

Prosecution tactic was multiple charges, making it probable at least one will "stick", so seems likely he will face some time in Prison.

If that happens, I wouldn't like to be Martin Bashir, he'll have to keep a constant sharp lookout for enraged Jackson fans.
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Unfortunately, even though he is guilty (come on people, which adult with such a mansion as he has needs to sleep in the same bed with a child that is not his own!), american law system will provide him with all the loopholes he needs to get out of this one in a pretty easy way (social service for a few months at most). Regarding his mental status, just look at him. Have you ever seen anyone that has actually gone through the process of changing his skin color? and for what? I say that he should be thrown out of business, freeze all his assets, use them to build a rocket to put him in and send him out to space. Our world would then be a better place for our children if they do not get exposed to elements like him!
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I agree with your thoughts on multiple charges. No sooner had a case been announced - extra charges just seemed to pile on the list daily.

I reckon the prosecutor must have pocketed a Neverland guestlist, took it back to his office and cold-called all the little kiddies.

As for him, though, we should respect the principle of innocent until proven guilty.

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According to news, Michal Jackson have run away, they can't find him.

Hehehe...he is like a small child running away from momma.
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I have to say that I am not suprised at the verdicts., this was one big setup from start to finish.

The Arviso family had no credibilty and a history of fraud.

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Right kids, back to Neverland for a celebration drink and a sleep over!


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I have to say that I am not suprised at the verdicts., this was one big setup from start to finish.

The Arviso family had no credibilty and a history of fraud.
Not only was I 'not surprised' I predicted it. I would have said the evidence was thin but there wasn't any against Jacko. I wonder if that DA will give up now.

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I must say I was surprised, the charges seemed "designed" to get at least one to stick, and most journalists assumed that would happen. I watched the Sky rebroadcast of Fox news, and their journalists didn't expect it!
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