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05-11-2006
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It seems to me that theses days you've either got to be loaded or you have to take out a bank loan each time you want to get your self a new TV or anything electrical come to mention it.  I've got a Goodmans 1403 R TV that I bought for £130 15 years ago. Its still working fine not a thing wrong with it. The only down side is that it has 1 RGB analog conection on the back and I have to loop my receivers through my VCR to be able to watch them as they no longer come with the RGB output. I bought a dvd player for the first time this year (normally use the dvd on the pc) only to find out that when I loop it through the VCR its Screws up the picture & sound ( DVD plyer now going cheap)I cant stand the fact that if I buy a new PVR, DVD player or receiver I now also have to replace my perfectly good working TV if I want to watch any thing on the new PVR', DVD player or receiver. Why throw away some thing that works fine.If any one know where i can get hold of a s video componet video, RGB scart, HDMI output ---- to ---- RGB analog output converter please let me know Ive not yet seen one. One of them would be a lot cheaper then a new flat screen TV I think  | ||
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My System: Sky+ Pace v3, and before that analouge 80cm dish with Prima by Pace box pointed at 19.2e (not very imaginative then!) | Welcome to the United Kingdom, could I interest you in a loan, which will no doubt cripple you financially in years to come?
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06-11-2006
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My System: Sky+ Multiroom,Thompson PVR, Dreambox 7000S, 300gig HDD, 1.1m Dish, Moteck SG-2100A DISEQC Motor, Gemini image, 2g USB Stick.  A defender of the Remote Control Brigade, Sir R can flick channels faster than a Robben dive | why not buy a scart socket extension hub my son has one in his room... 1 minute 1 RGB socket, the next hey presto 4  they do bigger ones too, how many RGB sockets you need  see HERE looks like ive saved you a few quid 
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My System: Skymaster DCI9900 + PC/twinhan combination. 80cm dish. GBPVR with 2 DTTV cards +hauppauge Media MVP |
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06-11-2006
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My System: 1.2M prime focus with SA58 H-H receiver-New Wave 9000 BP MK II | pgh13 I see where your coming from & did consider that, I was just really having a maon about prices in general. Theres no way i could spend £2000 grand on a big flat sreen even if I had the money. I mean thats almost or just over 18 years worth of a TV licence at todays prices. RedDevil Im kind of doing that at the moment with a few other conectors. Problem is the tv has no scart input and I have to run through the VCR Scart to get the signal on the tv. But the VCR screws up the signal on some equipment and there go's your picture and sound. Thanks any way | ||
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06-11-2006
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My System: 28e, 19e, 13e, 30w | Your current TV has only an aerial socket, or does it also have phono/RCAs? If it's only got an aerial socket, you'll need an RF modulator box from a place like Maplin/CPC/Lektropacks. These let you tune SCART & RCA sources into a TV like your do a VCR. | ||
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06-11-2006
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| Believe it when I see it Admin.  Join Date: 01-05-1999 Location: Southern England
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Blog Entries: 3 My System: Sky+, DB 7000s, Gemini 4.3 in flash, Var on USB stick. Transparent 80cm Dish, Moteck SG2100 DiseqC motor, lots of legacy gear. Meters: Satlook Digital NIT, Unaohm EP313, Swires Annie 204 Spectrum, Rover ST-4 Spectrum. | Maplin do a cheapie one.
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06-11-2006
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My System: 1.2M prime focus with SA58 H-H receiver-New Wave 9000 BP MK II | I've just done a google search and found this site that tells you how to build your own RF modulator useing the modulator out of the back of an old sat receiver. Think I may give it a go. It can be this weeks experiment for me. here's the website | ||
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07-11-2006
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My System: 28e, 19e, 13e, 30w | I've just seen that Maplin also do a videosender with a receiver that has an RF out. But that's £60 and it's best not to go wireless if you don't need to (presumably all your kit is next to the TV anyway.) | ||
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07-11-2006
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My System: 1.2M prime focus with SA58 H-H receiver-New Wave 9000 BP MK II | Yes Skip all my kit sit's next to each other, I manage to remove a modulator last night from an old grundig box I had lying around so I'm in the process of trying to build my own. Bit more fun than buying one off the shelf. | ||
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09-11-2006
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My System: 2xPace 430N, 1xNokia MM9800, 1xNokia 80cm Sat Dish, 1xGibertini 120cm, Big Fat Furry Puss | Satscanner - how have you gotten on with the modulator build? Like is it up and running yet.  .
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09-11-2006
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My System: 1.2M prime focus with SA58 H-H receiver-New Wave 9000 BP MK II | Well I've been a bit busy so far this week, at the the moment I only have the modulator I removed from the old receiver, but tonight I plan to dig out some of the other components that I need. Then tommorow it could be a trip to maplin or RS for any other bits. should not take long to build once I get all the bits. When I have completed it and if it works I will post some pic's in here for you all. | ||
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09-11-2006
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| What model of Goodmans TV is it ? I do not recall any that could not accept video composite by selection through the remote. I have not seen a video giving RGB out either so I am assuming there is something else in the system that is forcing the TV into RGB mode. Disabling one of the pins from the SCART lead (or changing it for a cheaper one with fewer pins) may allow you to check what is going on, without spending cash for nothing. RF modulation has it's own drawbacks (no stereo for a start)
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09-11-2006
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My System: 1.2M prime focus with SA58 H-H receiver-New Wave 9000 BP MK II | the TV is a Goodmans 1403 R TV. approx 15 years old plus The RF modulation is just a little project for me, somethin to play around with. I think I may have made a mistake at the bigining in saying that it was RGB The conection on the tv is just the standard analouge tv connection. The problem I have is that the vcr screws up the picture form the dvd player because of copyright issue's. This is with the use of a scart lead. Last edited by satscaner; 09-11-2006 at 11:22 PM | ||
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09-11-2006
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| Well now we are getting somewhere Unless the DVD only has one SCART as well, then you could try putting the Video first in line, the second option would be a change of DVD player (one with Macrovision disable).
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09-11-2006
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My System: 1.2M prime focus with SA58 H-H receiver-New Wave 9000 BP MK II | Ahh Macrovisoion I've read something about that before, rings a bell now. the dvd player only has one scart outlet well I've just put this Rf modulator together with all the parts I could find and its not doing a lot so its back to the drawing board Last edited by satscaner; 10-11-2006 at 01:37 AM | ||
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10-11-2006
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My System: 2xPace 430N, 1xNokia MM9800, 1xNokia 80cm Sat Dish, 1xGibertini 120cm, Big Fat Furry Puss | Lets face it, even the cheapo DVD players are Macrovision enabled. Looking for a hack is a fiddly-faff, etc. What satscanner is quite happy to do is make a DIY modulator for the video out. I am quite happy to wait and see how his project turns out. .
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10-11-2006
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My System: 28e, 19e, 13e, 30w | Some Macrovision hacks are just as easy as making most cheapo machines region free - it's usually a case of pressing a few number buttons in a certain way. Other than that there is of course hardware Macrovision "correctors" that are available from some electronics stores (usually they advertise them as something slightly different, for obvious reasons!) | ||
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10-11-2006
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My System: 2xPace 430N, 1xNokia MM9800, 1xNokia 80cm Sat Dish, 1xGibertini 120cm, Big Fat Furry Puss | Well, I don't have any 'Room Fragrance' at home [read: code word for gay smelling salts] - but, pray, by what name do these Macro_tralala toys go by ..... *cough*. I have a circuit diagram for one - but can't be ass'd to build it, LOL. Now, I really do need one (sic) so I can slim down on the plastic and space that these VHS buggers take up. .
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10-11-2006
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Blog Entries: 3 My System: Sky+, DB 7000s, Gemini 4.3 in flash, Var on USB stick. Transparent 80cm Dish, Moteck SG2100 DiseqC motor, lots of legacy gear. Meters: Satlook Digital NIT, Unaohm EP313, Swires Annie 204 Spectrum, Rover ST-4 Spectrum. | Search Ebay
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10-11-2006
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My System: 1.2M prime focus with SA58 H-H receiver-New Wave 9000 BP MK II | I've found this Website that explains more about Macrovision for those of you who want to know a bit more about it. | ||
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10-11-2006
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| I do not think the price of tv's etc is ott the sony 32inch ctr i brought a few years back cost over £1000 and i just brought the new model sony lcd 32inch for £700 from tesco You can also get cheaper lcd's 26 inch £350 from Argos and £450 for 32 inch You can also pick up a twin tuner DTT pvr for about £100ish now aswell | ||
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10-11-2006
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My System: 1.2M prime focus with SA58 H-H receiver-New Wave 9000 BP MK II | I think this one is going to go on & on & on The best deal I saw was at www.novatech.co.uk last year, they were doing a un-branded 32" lcd that was HD ready for £600, I dont know what they have on special offer at the moment I've seen the DTT PVR's in the WHAT TV & VIDEO mag very nice. I'd have to get one that would let me write onto disk though | ||
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