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Old 30-08-2007   #1
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Nova package basic info

Nova is a greek package broadcasting from Hotbird, 13degrees east.

Channels mostly in english language with greek subtitles on movies, english audio on sports where available.

A popular package for football due to coverage and other sports shown like rugby and cricket from sister channels supersport south africa

Channel line up

Filmnet 1
filmnet 2
filmnet 3
MGM
TCM
Supersport 1
Supersport 2
Supersport 3
Supersport 4
Supersport 5
Supersport 6
Supersport 7
Motors tv
Eurosport
Eurosport 2
Discovery Channel
Animal Planet
The History Channel
Travel Channel
Jetix
Cartoon Network
Mtv europe
VH1
Mad Music
Mezzo
Tv5
Ant1 Gold
Fashion Tv
E!

Greek channels

Ant1
Mega
Star
Alter
Alpha
ET1
ET3
Net
Mad
Boyah

Frequencys

10930 H SR 27500 FEC 3/4

11240 V SR 27500 FEC 3/4

11823 H SR 27500 FEC 3/4

11938 H SR 27500 FEC 3/4

12169 H SR 27500 FEC 3/4

12245 H SR 27500 FEC 3/4

12597 V SR 27500 FEC 3/4

Encryption Irdeto 2.

Equipment Required A Irdeto 2 cam or Irdeto 2 Embedded receiver, plus Nova subscription. Recommended satellite dish size for your area.

Hotbird Satellite Footprint Coverage



Where to buy

Nova can be purchased through various online satellite shops and will cost around 600-750 for 12 month subscription for all channels. Can also be bought in 3 or 6 month subscription.

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Nice work. Love the footprint.
Please let me know how and where to get footprints. Thanks.
What is the currency ? In pounds it would be very expensive.
I saw it in a shop in Italy. They sell it for 879 Euro (12 months).
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Originally Posted by wod View Post
sister channels supersport south africa
Sisters? I thought they were brothers.

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Ant1 Gold
It will be removed

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Greek channels
In 6/9/2007 another one was added. Sky Television in 12169

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Boyah
This is the TV station of the Greek Parliament. The above name is the greek one and it is presented wrongly due to greek characters used.
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Originally Posted by HB13DISH View Post
Nice work. Love the footprint.
Please let me know how and where to get footprints. Thanks.
The footprints are given by the satellite operators. You sould take a look at the official sites.

Eutelsat satellites http://www.eutelsat.org/satellites/satellite-fleet.html

Astra/Sirius satellites http://www.ses-astra.com/corpSite/si...list/index.php

Hellas Sat 2 http://www.hellas-sat.net/

etc etc

Visit the sites and search for footprint or downlink coverage.


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What is the currency ? In pounds it would be very expensive.
1 pound is about 1,6 euros.
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First of all we should clear up that there are 2 Nova bouquets:
Nova Hellas and Nova Cyprus. Each can be officially subscribed only in its home country and carries only its national channels.

In case of Nova Cyprus this means that there are no greek major TV stations like ET1/NET/ET3/MEGA/ANT1/ALPHA/STAR/ALTER/SKAI available and (therefore ?) is a little cheaper. From Sep 10th there are sub bouquets available starting with 27.50€ per month up to 45.70€. But there are cypriotic channels that are only available in Athina Sat bouquet like Lumière TV (LTV), Alfa Cyprus, Extra Lemesos. On the other hand Nova Cyprus carries Sigma Sports 1 and Super Sport Cyprus time shared and FilmNet Cyprus as well.

For Nova Hellas the current situation looks like this:
There are NO sub bouquets and the price once again has risen to now 57€ per month. The inner greek TV Stations i mentioned above can be received but not the cypriotic ones. There is no possibility for greek citizens paying TV fees in getting crippled cards that only open the national TV stations ET1/NET/ET3. Many people complain about the high compression and thus bad quality compared to clear terrestrial reception if this also isn't feeded by Nova as well. Nobody should watch big bigger screens than 37", you might get a headache after a while. Unfortunately there is no big improvement in sight because of the still high amount of subscriptions from cafés, hotels, bars, sport enthusiasts and people that just cannot get a clear terrestrial signal inside Greece but also from outside Greece living people that have no other choice than the few FTA channels to get in touch with their homeland. A big amount of those people is living in Europe including Cyprus but some also in Egypt and the Near East. Officially it's not allowed to export any equipment, neither the card nor the receiver of which there is one model that allows sharing inside the house with extra costs. But nobody cares since they make a big profit since the change to Irdeto 2 in 1999 (?). Both Nova companies are part of the Multichoice "imperium" and have as far as i know the highest prices for what they offer compared to Multichoice South Africa and Africa.

And closing with this:
The greek parliament channel is written in greek ΒΟΥΛΗ which should be transformed to latin writing in Vouli.
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Nova (Greece)

Greek Channels
100. Promo Channel
101. Parliament TV
102. ET1
103. NET
104. ET3
105. Mega
106. Ant1
108. Star
109. Alter
110. Alpha TV
111. ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ΤV
112. SKAI TV

MOVIES
201. FILMNET 1
202. FILMNET 2
203. FILMNET 3
206. MGM
207. TCM

SPORTS
301. SUPERSPORT 1
302. SUPERSPORT 2
303. SUPERSPORT 3
304. SUPERSPORT 4
305. SUPERSPORT 5
306. SUPERSPORT 6
307. SUPERSPORT 7
310. EUROSPORT
311. EUROSPORT 2
312. MOTORS TV

DOCUMENTARIES
401. DISCOVERY CHANNEL
402. ANIMAL PLANET
403. NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC
404. HISTORY CHANNEL
405. TRAVEL CHANNEL
410. CHASSE & PECHE

KIDS
501. JETIX
502. CARTOON NETWORK
510. Games (Open TV application)

MUSIC
601. MAD TV
603. MTV
604. VH1
605. MEZZO
620. MAD MUSIC SUMMER HITS
621. MAD MUSIC HITS GR
622. MAD MUSIC MY ROCK
623. MAD MUSIC Greek
624. MAD MUSIC Rebetico

GENERAL ENTERTAINMENT
701. E! ENTERTAINMENT
702. FASHION TV
704. WORLD FASHION
705. TV5 EUROPE

INTERNATIONAL NEWS
801. EURONEWS
802. CNN International
803. BBC World
804. FRANCE 24 English version
805. AL JAZEERA English version
810. BLOOMBERG
811. FRANCE 24 French version

OTHER CHANNELS
851. ERT SAT
852. RIK SAT

INTERACTIVE SERVICES
900. NOVASCOPE (open TV application)

ADULT
901. PLAYBOY TV
902. PRIVATE SPICE

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Nice listing, well done. But you've forgotten the Radio stations.
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Nova (Greece), radio services
1 ERA1
2 ERA2
3 ERA3
4 ERA SPORT
5 LOVE RADIO
6 SUPERSPORT FM
7 MELODIA FM
8 SKY RADIO
9 RADIO GOLD
10 GREEK CHURCH
11 PEIRAIKI EKKLISIA -->Church of Pireas
12 BBC English (Europe)
13 MAD RADIO
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So the listings are almost complete. 5 genre-specific radio stations of Mad Music are missing which i list here:

Hits GR
Lounge TV
Ellinika Agapimena
Rebetiko
Elliniko Rock

I am not sure if these days any other receiver than those of Nova can decode them. Maybe a dreambox.
And the other question is if a Nova Cyprus subscription has also access to all above listed Radio stations as well.
If anybody knows more please let us know.

And closing with this: I would change "SKY" to "SKAI" which suits better to the greek writing ΣΚΑΪ.
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Originally Posted by deepbluesky View Post
5 genre-specific radio stations of Mad Music are missing which i list here:

Hits GR
Lounge TV
Ellinika Agapimena
Rebetiko
Elliniko Rock
Take a look at the above listing. 620-624

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I am not sure if these days any other receiver than those of Nova can decode them. Maybe a dreambox.
These services have an audio component and an OpenTV component. A receiver without OpenTV can decode the audio only.

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And the other question is if a Nova Cyprus subscription has also access to all above listed Radio stations as well.
If anybody knows more please let us know.
The Nova Cyprus listing is coming soon. The Mad Music services are available to Cyprus without the OpenTV application.

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And closing with this: I would change "SKY" to "SKAI" which suits better to the greek writing ΣΚΑΪ.
I will change it.
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Oh i see. So they're using OpenTV. I wasn't aware of this.
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Mad Music Lounge has been renamed to mad Music My Rock
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The worst ever picture-quality-wise bouquet all over the sky!
..and among the most expensive!
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I am not sure if it's the worst over all bouquets. There are also romanian and bulgarian bouquets with many stations in one frequency so i suppose it's the same or even worse BUT the main difference is their very low cost instead of these greedy monopolists. But nobody is forced to take it. If more people would boycot it, they would have to lower prices and start sub bouquets. As long as the mass doesn't care of course they get richer and richer without offering any service at all.
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The worst ever picture-quality-wise bouquet all over the sky!
..and among the most expensive!
I Agree with you.
The trouble with all these package providers is that they give you many channels but they downgrade the video and audio signals so that they all fit into their allocated tp.
Please take a look at this thread:
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I have since then installed a bitrate monitor and I can now check the quality of a channel just by reading the numbers.
The reason why Nova is so popular is that they put a higher bitrate into the sports channel at the expense of the rest of the channels.

If more viewers demand a better quality bitrate for the channels, then the providers might listen.
But since such info need to collected and published, viewers don't know what they are getting since they don't have a quantitative measure of what they see.
I suggested to Lyngsat to add such info in their channel lists, but they didn't reply.
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Bitrate monitor ? You surely mean something like this here: http://www.linowsat.de/mainpage.html or whatever the TS Reader shows analyzing a certain frequency, right ?

Just to have an idea what better quality means especially in Greece:
A noise free non interfering picture with neighbour frequencies or transmitters. In many regions you can get on one frequency different channels just because the band regulation is ridiculous and a lot (rich) pirates do what they want destroying the signal even of the state channels. Then it is a fact that in areas near to the border to FYROM and Turkey many channels are beeing sweeped off because of their extreme signal strength. There are no regulations. Just as an example: The FYROM channels MTB1+2 can be received up to 150km south of the border and some turkish channels reach Attica peninsula that is 300km+ away !!
So, this is what they do: Offer a "clear" picture without interference. Sound ? What is that ? HD ? On another planet probably but not under hellenic skies...
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He battled for 3 days against the Tux and won! Hurray!!

Yes. This is what I would like Lyngsat to show for every channel.
The bitrate monitor is a plugin that one can install in the Dreambox and then checkout the values for each channel.
SRG has an excellent bitrate of ~ 6000kb/s and this is the reason why the picture looks very sharp and the colours just fantastic.
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I agree. Although i'm getting SF1/2 over DVB-C the picture is crystal clear. Wish there would be less stations but with quality content, picture and sound available to everybody worldwide. In some years this will be normal over IP TV.
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can this package be used commercially in the uk ie in pubs ect.as they are using it down my local.
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can this package be used commercially in the uk ie in pubs ect.as they are using it down my local.
Due to copyright laws, this package can only be purchased in Greece or Cypress.
Just like Sky UK and any other foreign package like TPS, Canal Satellite, Showtime, Arabesque, etc.

There is a "black Market" whereby smartcards can be sold with a high rip of factor of 50%-300%
It would not be wise to use it commercially in public places like pubs.
So tell your locals to be careful.
Some countries allow their nationals overseas to subscribe to their national package, on a personal use only, like SRG (Switzerland), but I am not sure about Greece.
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Multichoice Hellas on the one hand does not sell subscriptions outside Greece but they make a lot of profit of Greeks having it in Europe or the Middle East. Almost all use an address of a relative/friend in Greece. MC forbids the export of the card but who can control this ? I haven't heared of any case that a card was disactivated just because it wasn't used inside GR. But showing it in a public area is different. I wouldn't dare to do this.
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Multichoice Hellas on the one hand does not sell subscriptions outside Greece but they make a lot of profit of Greeks having it in Europe or the Middle East. Almost all use an address of a relative/friend in Greece. MC forbids the export of the card but who can control this ? I haven't heared of any case that a card was disactivated just because it wasn't used inside GR. But showing it in a public area is different. I wouldn't dare to do this.
I don't mind if MC is making profit on their legitimate smartcards (in my opinion, it is too expensive to start with compared to other packages), but it is the inflated price that people are asked to pay if they don't have a relative in Greece. The extra money goes to these shop owners pockets, not to MC.

BTW, I heard some scary stories few years ago that if a tourist leaves the country and they search him and find a Nova smartcard on him, he either goes to prison or is fined a lot of money.
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BTW, I heard some scary stories few years ago that if a tourist leaves the country and they search him and find a Nova smartcard on him, he either goes to prison or is fined a lot of money.
It's not true. Their is not such a law in Greece. Furthermore, who cares? Do you think that the police officers in the airports are interested in finding smartcards?

Let's say that someone leaves Greece with a smartcard in the wallet, near to the credit cards. How can they be discovered?
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Yes I agree there not such a law. A lot of apartments for example are sharing 1 card either legal or .... So if its not for selling and for your own house everywhere there is no problem....
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