Zone 2 On A Moteck DiSEqC Motor

**satelliteman** · 26-04-2008

Adding new Transponder lists info to my spectrum alignment meter so rigged up a temp Zone 2 on a Moteck sg2100a Motor to see what would be received

Confirmed results for Zone 2 with 0.6dB LNB and a DiSEqC motor, taken from patio mount height- location 52N, 1W

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Hotbird @ 13e
Astra 1 @ 19e
Astra 2 / Eurobird 1 @ 28e
Atlantic Bird 2 @ 8w
Atlantic Bird 3 @ 5w
Hispasat @ 30w
Hellasat @ 39e
Turksat @ 42e 80% of transponders
Sirius @ 5e
W3A @ 7e
Eurobird 9 @ 9e
***Thor @ 1w- could see just enough of the transponders on the spectrum trace to set up on also a very large maple tree in the line of sight - NO channels found possibly due to above and also dish size***

Attached pictures below

Paul

16e with careful alignment and a change of LNb

**bigtee** · 26-04-2008

Cool; try ***** TV 16e 10957; done before with good lock in South East with Zone 2 dish.

**satelliteman** · 26-04-2008

No lock on 16e

***2cvbloke*** · 26-04-2008

I remember someone doing this a while back, I thought it was rather amusing that they had put a minidish on a motor...

Great work though, you've got plenty of satellites and channels to choose from...

**Robbo** · 26-04-2008

Yep, I used to have a zone1 on a motor

which looks very silly. But I was able to get ***** TV on 16E on it, in fact I think it was the ONLY channel I could get off 16E.

**satelliteman** · 27-04-2008

I'll rig it up again and try sometime. You know what with everything, I might just had got it but forgot to make a note of it on my sheet.

**satelliteman** · 27-04-2008

Update, tried two Zone 2 dishes this morning as the rig was still set up and NO 16e.

Just goes from 13e to 19e. You boys are in the South East mind and I am close to N'ton, would that make a difference?

Still happy with my test results so far

***2cvbloke*** · 27-04-2008

It could be that if you use a normal minidish LNB, it could be skewed,
so if you carefully open it up and get the feedhorn perfectly Vertical (the Oval shape is opposite to the dishface, so it's taller than it is wide) then you may have better results...

I did this when I was using my old Z1 minidish to get Hispasat so I could get the skew just right, so it may work for you...

**satelliteman** · 27-04-2008

The rig is down now, but a good thought.

I was going to change the LNb clamp for a universal 40mm to fit any universal LNb but wanted to try the standard sky dish LNb first.

Cheers

***2cvbloke*** · 27-04-2008

Originally Posted by satelliteman

The rig is down now, but a good thought.

I was going to change the LNb clamp for a universal 40mm to fit any universal LNb but wanted to try the standard sky dish LNb first.

Cheers

If you used a standard LNB on a Minidish, it won't perform as well as it would on a normal round dish as the feedhorns in Minidish LNBs are matched to the dishes, so you'd ge a lot of background noise from whatever's behind the dish as the dish wouldn't cover the feedhorn properly, if you want to go for a 40mm clamp LNB, I think the Wistron/WNC minidish LNBs have 40mm clamps, failing that there's always the good old Skyware SX1019/S...

**satelliteman** · 27-04-2008

cheers fella

***2cvbloke*** · 27-04-2008

Originally Posted by satelliteman

cheers fella

No probs, minidishes are always fun to play and experiment with...

**satelliteman** · 27-04-2008

I agree.

I have taken on board your comments and rigged

up the dish again.

Changed over the LNb to match dish (older Cambridge G96) and can now pull in 16e

A little noisy and could see 10972V clear but as 10957H is very narrow the other LNb wasn't showing this and is still hard to see on spectrum trace. Still just about get it.

Thanks for your comments

***2cvbloke*** · 27-04-2008

Originally Posted by satelliteman

I agree.

I have taken on board your comments and rigged up the dish again.

Changed over the LNb to match dish (older Cambridge G96) and can now pull in 16e

A little noisy and could see 10972V clear but as 10957H is very narrow the other LNb wasn't showing this and is still hard to see on spectrum trace. Still just about get it.

Thanks for your comments

Good news!!! I noticed in your pics you used different LNBs (from what I can see I saw Raven, Thomson and a Wistron/WNC), so I guess you had a good experiment with different ones...

BUt as I say, they're good dishes to play and experiment with...

**bigtee** · 27-04-2008

Fab news; from memory, 10972V and 10967H were indeed the first frequencies I had success with when playing with the Zone 2 for 16e.

***compufunk*** · 27-05-2008

Hi,
A newbie question,

Didn't the fact that the dish was mounted on the motor via the arm (sorry I dont know the term) on the back of the dish offset the dish when the motor was rotated? The dish would have been moving in a different way than if it had been mounted directly on the motor shaft (centered).

Regards,

**satelliteman** · 27-05-2008

Originally Posted by compufunk

Hi,
A newbie question,

Didn't the fact that the dish was mounted on the motor via the arm (sorry I dont know the term) on the back of the dish offset the dish when the motor was rotated? The dish would have been moving in a different way than if it had been mounted directly on the motor shaft (centered).

Regards,

I don't follow

I centred the dish on the shaft when it was at it's zero position.

**Robbo** · 27-05-2008

I know what he means.

The minidish mounting arm sticks out sideways by what... a foot or something.

But it makes no difference, the dish still points exactly the same way as it would if the motor was mounted directly onto the back of the dish.

To be honest, this point did cross my mind when as an absolute biginner I stuck my minidish on a motor.

Robbo

**satelliteman** · 27-05-2008

Yes Robbo, you have to play around with it a bit and make sure it's dead parallel with the centre of the motor shaft. The shaft is too wide to slide directly onto the rear of the dish.... that's why I took the arm off a Zone 1 and fitted it to the Zone 2

***compufunk*** · 27-05-2008

Thanks for clearing that up guys,

I had to draw myself a little diagram to prove it to myself

**Robbo** · 27-05-2008

Originally Posted by compufunk

Thanks for clearing that up guys,

I had to draw myself a little diagram to prove it to myself

Exactly what I originally had to do too.

pedro2000uk · 11-06-2008

We used a zone 1 Sky dish on a motor for ages... mid UK... 42e to 45w 5000 channels plus... They are very good and the LNBs are...

**satelliteman** · 11-06-2008

Not all of the sats would of been reliable though on a Z1 for sure.

See also: Zone 1 On A Moteck DiSEqC Motor !!!!

pedro2000uk · 11-06-2008

Originally Posted by satelliteman

Not all of the sats would of been reliable though on a Z1 for sure.

See also: Zone 1 On A Moteck DiSEqC Motor !!!!

45e (if in sight & further) 42e 39e 36e 33e 28e 26e(1) 23.5e 19e 16e 13e 10e (9e) 7e 5e 1w 5w 7w 8w 12.5w 15w 18w 22w 27.5w 30w 43w 45w (and 58w if in sight)

You miss weak TP/ beams on some sats but not the whole sat... and the signals you do get are usually very strong just like Sky... just set it up well and it'll do it.. they make an ideal dish to stick high up on a chimney on a motor just to get deep east/ west sats that a bigger dish can't see lower down.

Try the dish 'level' at 28.2e to max it out - unscrew some of the bolts and swing it round until its level while the motor is parked at 28.2e and hold it with a G clamp etc.. set the LNB to your zone. The scala rings in the LNBs are also offset for 28.2e as well as oval.

*only kidding about 7w.. te he

**Robbo** · 11-06-2008

Originally Posted by pedro2000uk

*only kidding about 7w.. te he

Still, getting something off 26E ain't bad, which tp is that?

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