TRIAX TD88 vs FRACARRO PENTA 85

**satelliteman** · 07-08-2008

Originally Posted by pedro2000uk

Satkitten.. Have you tried 26e and MBC2 on that yet? The acid test for that dish I think.. (although it might be a bit unpredictable at the moment with BADR6 coming on line). We used to get it on a Lydle 80cm in central UK on a TM1000- no real rain fade though.

.. they do look striking....but 26e is a must..

Satelliteman... what LNBf did you use.. the same one as before or one that came with it?

Anyone.... recommend a really good LNBf match...? should be theirs really.... I think it needs a custom feed horn with scala rings that shape...

We had some (audible) noise problems with certain steal dishes on cheapo 2100's - the dish acted like an amplifier/ speaker... wow...changed them to gen branded motors ...

No LNb came with it. I had the dish supplied without.

I used a 0.3dB Invacom Twin.

SM

satkitten · 07-08-2008

nope..not had time for a scan over there yet..with the weather and me gammy leg (aww poor me!) and now im back into shifts till next monday mornin.....then four days for for a play...ill report back...hope to fine tweak it all up......but me thinks she will get me to do the bathroom decorating done first

.. oh well...ill get back next week...thanks guys.

quick update 20:43BSt....just had a quick scan of that sat...most tps seem to be 40% with that particular TP only 27% with dropout...weather is pretty fine.....maybe when i fine tune i can get db or two more....is it worth watching..or is it just arabic channel? cul

UPDATE 2 2049bst....MY POLE IS BENT !! JUST WENT TO FLEX DISH TO SEE IF ITS OUT OF ALIGNMENT...ON PULLING ME SUPPOSIDLY HORIZONTAL POLE BACK A TAD I GET 35% AND SOLID SIGNAL..OOH A FILM IS ON....MUST FINE TUNE AND ADJUST IF ITS BRIGHTER NEXT WEEK.....

satkitten · 08-08-2008

had a quick lood last night...the pole is hardly off centre at all ..i think i may have set the motor elevation slightly off....ill play later....ill delete all these posts later too...or if im not allowed perhaps satelliteman can do it..to tidy up this thread ...as my likkle messages are kinda takin over?....then ill post a new update when i finished realligning...tonite hopefully as its lovely out right now.. tks guys..mikey

update 21:15.....moved motor elevation from 51n to 50.3 ish north....readjusted dish...seem to get better arc now...32% on mbc tps......final post.....cant delete if required

**dasteelman** · 09-09-2008

going to buy a 85 cm brick colour Fracarro from eb@y

satkitten · 10-09-2008

you wont regret it....mine is doing a wonderful job at holding pictures and sound during bad weather on 12.5w 10e and 7e feeds....

**rolfw** · 10-09-2008

Originally Posted by dasteelman

going to buy a 85 cm brick colour Fracarro from eb@y

Why not buy from one of our forum supporting advertisers, one of them is a Fracarro distributor.

**compufunk** · 10-09-2008

Originally Posted by rolfw

Why not buy from one of our forum supporting advertisers, one of them is a Fracarro distributor.

And is also just about the only one selling them on Ebay

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As a past customer, I would recommend them.

**dasteelman** · 10-09-2008

I will do fella's when I get paid on Monday

***wod*** · 10-09-2008

i wish they would do a larger version of this dish, then i would get one why not an 105cm version ?

**rolfw** · 10-09-2008

Originally Posted by compufunk

And is also just about the only one selling them on Ebay .

As a past customer, I would recommend them.

Yes, but if you follow their link from the forum, they will know that the business came from here.

**dasteelman** · 14-09-2008

on the subject of the Fracarro aluminium and the steel....i presume that the quality is the same.....just the actual weight?

**satelliteman** · 14-09-2008

Also the aluminium version should last longer and not rust.
I have only ever used the Penta steel dish and they weren't that heavy.
I believe Rolf has used both versions

**rolfw** · 14-09-2008

Yes, purely a weight issue if you take corrosion out of the frame.

LAURO2008 · 21-10-2008

Originally Posted by satelliteman

Swapped Dish on DiSEqC motor resulting in better noise margin all round.
A well built dish that performs excellent

Results taken from Technomate 5200d Signal Quality info screen:

Results showing quality reading:

> 1w THOR 11.325h before: 92% Now: 95%

> 9e 11823h Before: 80% Now: 84%

> 16e 10.957h Before: 66% Now: 72%

> 16e 11.451h Before: 81% Now: 86%

> 23.5e 10.862h Before: 97% Now: 98%

> 26e 11.819h Before: 58% Now: 58%

> 39e 12.606h Before: 94% Now: 98%

> 42e 11897v Before: 89% Now 89%

> 8w 10.972 Before: 76% Now: 84%

> 30w 11.683v Before: 77% Now 75%

> 30w 12.456v Before: 95% Now: 96%

Satman

Dear Satman,

I don't get what was your previous dish.

The best LNB which goes with a Penta85 is the Inverto IDPL-40SL+

Here in The Netherlands is almost impossible to get a Penta 85...do you have any advice?

Thanks in advance for your feed back.

**compufunk** · 21-10-2008

Originally Posted by LAURO2008

Here in The Netherlands is almost impossible to get a Penta 85...do you have any advice?

I'm sure one of the site sponsors would be happy to post you one.
http://www.satellites.co.uk/index.php?page=sponsors

satkitten · 22-10-2008

well its been a while since i installed the dish..still getting good results in all weathers.....i keep going back to BADR for a nosey...find that the channels are only 28-31% with quite a bit of break up over the receivers (DARKBOX 2007) threshold of 30%.

Decided to have a play and put my old Lidl 0.6 LNB on the dish in stead of the Strong LNB which i bought and installed with the dish....

~What an improvement....6-8% signal increase....now have the MBC channels rock steady...today is sunny with lots of passing cloud...so a reasonalbe day to test. the other sats seem to have a better to even better reception too..........never thought to play with LNBs before....all i need now is to try the Inverto as mentioned in post above........i also noted that the lnb adapter gets a little waterlogged in the bottom recess which meant the Strong lnb was going to get flooded eventually in the two breather holes...the breather hole on the Lidl lnb is clear of the holder....so..despite my thrombosis and climbing the blinkin ladder again i feel well pleased......but disapointed the Strong 0.2lnb isnt quite a match for the 85cm dish.....again thanks to all at satellites co uk for inputs on a wide range of topics...great site...must use it more though..

Mikey

satkitten · 23-10-2008

well its quite cloudy today.....and i still have rock solid picture at 34% on Badr sats.....58% on the stronger tp's. all in all a good exercise.

**Topper** · 23-10-2008

Originally Posted by satkitten

well its quite cloudy today.....and i still have rock solid picture at 34% on Badr sats.....58% on the stronger tp's. all in all a good exercise.

That is good to hear, it always good to hear of a positive result

satkitten · 1 Week Ago

anybody got comments on Best LNB to go with the dish?

**rolfw** · 1 Week Ago

I've been using the Inverto and had results up to expectations, but haven't really tried many others I'm afraid.

**satelliteman** · 1 Week Ago

Works well on inverto, Invacom and Fracarro.
Tried & Tested

satkitten · 1 Week Ago

thanks guys...perhaps i'm just hoping...but trying to push the lnb in a bit more and lifting the front just a tad i get 2-3% more quality....this brings in BADR weaker sats in better on a low cloudy day...seems to stop the occasional breakup.....also i can acutally receive TP on 23.5E now.....a footy channel is stronger and for the first time i get 40% +/- on other TP's off that sat!!! so i know there is more to be gained (pardon the pun).

i dont want to cut and mod the lnb holder just yet..but i am convinced that a more suitable lnb would match the dish better and give me the coulple of percent strength i need to just bring in things better, or things not seen!

could you quote me an actual model number please guys.....then i can perhaps get rid of this Lidl 0.6 lnb which is better than the strong i bought. i guess the strong is too "strong" at clamping adjacent channel interference whilst killing overall signal strength? been a good lnb but the Fplug connecter on it is um...threaded.....! too much playing around

I have looked for lauro2008's recommendation of Inverto IDPL-40SL+..but not avail in uk.