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Old 05-04-2009   #1
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A Comag sl65 receiver and a Mvision st5.

Technomate 2200 Motor.

A motorised zone 2 sky dish which I can pick up 45e-30w. Some satellite show weak signals so I have purchased a Fortec 100cm dish which is coming soon. Might keep the zone 2 dish on the chimney and mount the Fortec dish on the side of the house.

The dangly bits on the dish is some rope that I tied around the chimney just to give me peace and mind that it will not fall though the skylight window if something goes wrong ;-)
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My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s

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Sounds like your have a nice set up there when finished

Installing the 100cm dish on the side of the house is a wise decision. Surprised you still have the dish & motor what with it being so high up and without correct fixings to the chimney. Even though it's a bungalow, should really be fixed to the chimney using a lashing strap and bracket.

I've always had good results with zone 2 dishes too

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My System: Comag SL65, MVision st5 for PVR, Technomate 2300 HH motor, Orbital 100cm dish, Inverto Black Ultra LNB.

Big and Little brother together ;-)

Moved the dish to the side of the house after some strong winds made me a bit nervous. On the plus side the dish can be tweaked more easily and now I can pick up some transponders from 53e. Still waiting for my 100cm dish :-(

Thanks for the comment satelliteman :-)
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Looks good, definitely a safer option

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My System: andrews dish - jaeger 1224 motor, vantage x221tsci, skystar 2, diablo v2.3, cyfra+

if your getting a 1metre dish that wall mount you have used at the moment wont be strong enough to hold a motor and 1metre dish
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My System: Gibertini 1M XP Premium - Inverto Black Ultra .2db LNB - Technomate 2200 motor - Vantage 7100 HD. 57E - 22W - 60cm solid oval dish fixed on 28.2 - Humax Freesat HD - Sony Bravia LCD - Sony BluRay and Sony Home Cinema

Agreed Wod. I have my Triax and motor on an 'L' mount and I know it isn't up to the job. Hence my intention to go with T&K's soon.

Cocker, I notice in the photograph your mount seems to be pointing down towards the ground slightly. Mine does the same by about 4 or 5°.

I've adjusted the motor elevation to compensate so that I can achieve a reasonable arc. Did you alter yours as well? Because if not, I don't see how you would get sats at the lower end of the arc.

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My System: Comag SL65, MVision st5 for PVR, Technomate 2300 HH motor, Orbital 100cm dish, Inverto Black Ultra LNB.

Wod, I am getting a Fortec dish that comes with a wall mount so will be replacing the "L" bracket with that.

Sonnetpete, I pulled the "L" bracket to the right a bit so it not quite vertical and then altered the elevation. I now can pick up from 53e-45w, but not all the transponders.
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My System: Gibertini 1M XP Premium - Inverto Black Ultra .2db LNB - Technomate 2200 motor - Vantage 7100 HD. 57E - 22W - 60cm solid oval dish fixed on 28.2 - Humax Freesat HD - Sony Bravia LCD - Sony BluRay and Sony Home Cinema

Hi Cocker (Lee)

Ah ok, that explains something, you must have it on the eastern side side of the arc pretty well spot on. It's just I have a few problems with the motor/dish being too heavy for the mount and bending it slightly. Guess we will both benefit from T&K's!!

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My System: Comag SL65, MVision st5 for PVR, Technomate 2300 HH motor, Orbital 100cm dish, Inverto Black Ultra LNB.
Update to 100cm dish

My Fortec got lost somewhere in the post, don’t know how something that big gets lost However got a 100cm Global Orbit dish instead. Now I can get 57E - 58W, If I try and go past 60E my receiver "says out of range". I can pick up some transponders on 7w but only at night and they seem to disappear during the day. The dish is currently picking up from 26e.

The bracket is just a bodge job, but does the job well (I will soon see next time we get a windy day). I need a bracket the cranks out about 50cm so the dish can rotate without hitting the side of the house. If I get some T & K brackets can I use a cranked pole? Any suggesting are welcome.
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My System: TM6800HD, TM1000, TM600 Linux,TM5200, TM2200 motor, Triax TD110 dish + Fortec 85cm. Meter=Satlook Micro+G2 NIT

No need for a cranked pole. 24 inch T&Ks should be sufficent, these will easily bring the dish out to 50cm.

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Now I can get 57E - 58W, If I try and go past 60E my receiver "says out of range".
USALS won't allow past a physical 60degs E or W.

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My System: Comag SL65, MVision st5 for PVR, Technomate 2300 HH motor, Orbital 100cm dish, Inverto Black Ultra LNB.

After tweaking my dish today I realised the chess 0.1db LNB wasn't up too much so decided to have an experiment. I have only got an Inverto 0.2db monoblock to hand so just did a quick swap out and WOW what a difference! Now some of 7w transponders are booming in, 11862.00V was around 40%-45% now 67%-71% with no picture break up.

The only problem when moving the dish the monoblock switches as well. I have just order an Inverto Black Ultra LNB from Germany which hopefully should be here for next weekend.
I'll post some more results.

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yes its best to try a few lnbs to get the best match for the dish
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Amazed that you pick up 53e with a minidish

57e-58w on your 1m is a good feat!

I pick up 40e-30w only because of trees, houses and other crap.

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Amazed that you pick up 53e with a minidish
Wide beam well possible with an EIRP of 48dBw although I'm sure... a marginal signal with a minidish.

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My System: Comag SL65, MVision st5 for PVR, Technomate 2300 HH motor, Orbital 100cm dish, Inverto Black Ultra LNB.

The mini dish picked up 53e the same channels the 1m dish did, I cannot remember what the signal quality was like but the picture did not break up. I did a rescan using the 1m dish and I am not receiving any extra channels.
When my new LNB comes my next challenge is to see if I can get anything of 68.5°E
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The mini dish picked up 53e the same channels the 1m dish did, I cannot remember what the signal quality was like but the picture did not break up. I did a rescan using the 1m dish and I am not receiving any extra channels.
When my new LNB comes my next challenge is to see if I can get anything of 68.5°E
Would be amazing if you could.. but unless you have an amazing vantage point and a much bigger dish (I would have thought 2m min??) I would very much doubt this...

USALS will also bugger up at anything past 60e so you'll have to take it manually too!

Edit: Do prove me wrong though.. I'd love to see some screengrabs


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Originally Posted by cocker80 View Post
my next challenge is to see if I can get anything of 68.5°E
What, in C band?
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My System: Comag SL65, MVision st5 for PVR, Technomate 2300 HH motor, Orbital 100cm dish, Inverto Black Ultra LNB.

Been looking at _http://en.kingofsat.net/beams.php?s=42&b=77, my be possible fingers crossed.
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My System: Comag SL65, MVision st5 for PVR, Technomate 2300 HH motor, Orbital 100cm dish, Inverto Black Ultra LNB.

I just took delivery of my Inverto Black Ultra LNB and all I can say is WOW! It is a great piece of kit. I lost 11862.00V on 7w due to rain fade, but now i get around 63% signal quality. When the weather perks up I will do some comparison with the LNB I’ve got.
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Originally Posted by cocker80 View Post
Been looking at _http://en.kingofsat.net/beams.php?s=42&b=77, my be possible fingers crossed.
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i,v been getting a few transponders from 68.5 west --- on the europe beam using a 80 c.m dish

see -- 53 -- 68.5 East

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nelson_b, what is your stongest transponder on 68.5e?
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nelson_b, what is your stongest transponder on 68.5e?
hi -
12575 V 3378 3/4 id -- Mana sat 1 is good
but they all rise and fall in strength especialy in cloudy or wet weather
the one i watch on this sat is 12722 V 26657 1/2 id -SANI (SABC News International) -this is rather weak on 80 cm (drops out in poor weather)

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My System: Gibertini 1M XP Premium - Inverto Black Ultra .2db LNB - Technomate 2200 motor - Vantage 7100 HD. 57E - 22W - 60cm solid oval dish fixed on 28.2 - Humax Freesat HD - Sony Bravia LCD - Sony BluRay and Sony Home Cinema

Hi Cocker (Lee)

I'm very tempted to try the Inverto Black Ultra, mainly because of your results on 7W. Was the screenshot taken during the afternoon when the signal is less strong? Also, what were your strength/quality readings with your old LNB?

I can receive most verticals with a quality reading of 45 - 50+ during the day, even getting some stronger horizontals up to 42Q when it's a clear day. I'm hoping for an improvement which will let me get a lock on a H during the day.

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My System: Comag SL65, MVision st5 for PVR, Technomate 2300 HH motor, Orbital 100cm dish, Inverto Black Ultra LNB.

nelson_b, cheers will give it a try when the weather perks up.

sonnetpete, the snapshots were taken at 1300hrs with some fine rain that gets you wet ;-) I did not take any readings from my old LNB but if the weather is good at the weekend I will put it back on and do some comparisons.

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