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Old 02-10-2006   #351
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My System: Thomson Sky+ PVR3, Pace 2200 Sky box, Zone 1 Triax minidish with Thomson Quad LNB, 1m Gibertini and Technomate TM-1500CI+ Super (Patched) 1metre Gibertini at Astra 1 19.2°e

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Old 02-10-2006   #352
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Originally Posted by rolfw View Post
It should be strong enough, but I always like to over compensate. If you do eventually add a motor, then put another K bracket in the middle.

rolfw so you need two k brackets thought one set was enough ?

now i've got a decent sds hammer drill i'm gonna use sleeve anchors on mine

how much pole can you have above the guttering ?
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Old 02-10-2006   #353
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My System: Sky+, DB 7000s, Gemini 4.3 in flash, Var on USB stick. Transparent 80cm Dish, Moteck SG2100 DiseqC motor, lots of legacy gear. Meters: Satlook Digital NIT, Unaohm EP313, Swires Annie 204 Spectrum, Rover ST-4 Spectrum.

I nearly always use 2 K brackets and 1 T bracket for a motor mount, just gives a little more stability. I use the Fischer 10/35mm sleeve anchors, inexpensive but effective on anything up to 1m and the 12 or 14mm anchors for anything larger..

PS. Depending on the size of the dish, you probably want to allow for only as much mast above the brackets, as is between them. Smaller dishes perhaps 1/3 below, 2/3 above.
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Old 04-10-2006   #354
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My System: Echostar AD3000-IP, Manhattan Plaza ST100, Gibertini 1m Dish, Inverto Silver Tech 0.2, Polar Mount, 12 Inch Actuator, Dragon CAM

I'm just about to put a 1m Gibbi up with a polar mount and 12 inch jack.

At the moment I've got a K bracket and a T bracket already bolted to the wall with M10 rawlbolts. My idea was to use the pole that I used for my ham radio antennae (vertical white-stick and 3 element horizontal beam for 50MHz, sitting on a hefty Yaesu rotator).

I can vouch for the strength of the mountings as they've gone through the last two winters and not budged at all, though I know that a dish has far more sail area than even that ham radio beam did.

The K bracket is on the top, about two thirds of the way up the wall, about 12 feet up and the T bracket is about 6 feet off the ground.

The pole, which is a thick-walled 2 inch steel pole, reaches about 3 feet over the gutter (north-facing wall) when standing on the ground. This will mean that the brackets don't have to support the weight of the pole or the dish - just the forces applied by wind.

If I add another K bracket nearer the top, would this be the best thing to do?

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Edt: Here are some pictures of what I am using now and the beginnings of my upgrade...

Picture 1: My ex-Sky Analogue dish, pointing at Hotbird 13E on my super-hi-tech patio mount.

Picture 2: The easterly view.

Picture 3: Some lovely trees which may hinder my 36E reception - we'll see though...

Picture 4: The view towards the Astra 1 area.

The rest of the horizon is about as clear. My only obstacles seem to be those two trees but the evergreen ones are a good 40 metres away and the bigger ones about twice as far.

I've also included some pics of my brackets. Any comments as to their suitability will be useful, bearing in mind what I mention above about the pole standing on the ground...

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I would be more inclined to put the T above and the extra K below, but perhaps not quite as low as the one you have at the moment.

PS. Looks like nice countryside around your way.
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Old 04-10-2006   #356
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Yes the countryside isn't too shoddy. I live just south of the Yorkshire Dales and the Easterly view shows Baildon Moor, next to Ilkley Moor,

What I'm going to do is put the pole up first, then add the extra bracket as then I won't need to measure anything. When these brackets went up originally, I used a plumb line to ensure one was directly above the other.

It doesn't matter that the T bracket is that low really, as the pole goes all the way to the ground! If the pole stopped at the T bracket, I imagine I'd have several huge chunks missing from my head!

EDIT: Right. I've put the pole up to show you all. Is it too tall? If so, I can cut some off the bottom and slide it down through the clamps.

I'm going to mount the dish in this way:

1. Polar mount on pole
2. Push up above gutter line
3. Dish face on polarmount
4. Jack on polarmount
5. Line up to the arc.

Is that the easiest way - other than watching someone else do it?!
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Old 04-10-2006   #357
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My System: Thomson Sky+ PVR3, Pace 2200 Sky box, Zone 1 Triax minidish with Thomson Quad LNB, 1m Gibertini and Technomate TM-1500CI+ Super (Patched) 1metre Gibertini at Astra 1 19.2°e

holy (rude word!) cow, that pole is huge!!! beware, the higher you have to take the gibbi, the harder it is, i only took mine about 8 - 10 foot up and man was it difficult, even with help from my dad!
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Old 05-10-2006   #358
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My System: Echostar AD3000-IP, Manhattan Plaza ST100, Gibertini 1m Dish, Inverto Silver Tech 0.2, Polar Mount, 12 Inch Actuator, Dragon CAM

Yeah it's a beast. 21 feet long, that pole.

Heh, when I had my ham radio aerials on it, I had a rotator on the top which took it up a foot and then another 4 foot 6 inch pole in the top of the rotator with the aerials on it. Nearly 27 feet and then the vertical aerial, which was on top of that, was 7 feet long. 34 feet tall. Well, I did work South Africa, South America and Japan with it...

Trouble was, I was also in rather good contact with the house alarm, 6 doors down the street!

Yes, having thought about it, I'll shorten it so that it's just long enough to get the Gibbi above the gutter line. I don't think the roof will get in the way of any satellites as they're pretty high in the sky towards the south I think.
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Old 22-10-2006   #359
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My System: 2xPace 430N, 1xNokia MM9800, 1xNokia 80cm Sat Dish, 1xGibertini 120cm, Big Fat Furry Puss

It took a while to get my orientation of the house (sic) - but then I thought " why not mount everything at the back of the house?" (where the current minidish is). Surely, you wouldn't have to go so high-up and would have a better sweep of the sky (or does that house behind the garage spoil things?).

And, the obvious, you wouldn't attract undue attention from ze neighbours with that side of house affair.

BTW, that is one long poll!

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My System: Echostar AD3000-IP, Manhattan Plaza ST100, Gibertini 1m Dish, Inverto Silver Tech 0.2, Polar Mount, 12 Inch Actuator, Dragon CAM

Well, good idea but three things are:

1. The roof is higher at the back
2. I want to be able to get the atlantic sats, i.e. Telstar 12 at 15W and Hispasat at 30W.
3. I already had brackets on the side of the house. If I drill any more holes in the house, it'll be like living in a piece of Swiss cheese!

I'll perhaps be moving house in a year or so and I'll look for something that has a south-facing back garden so I can ground mount the dish.
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My System: 2xPace 430N, 1xNokia MM9800, 1xNokia 80cm Sat Dish, 1xGibertini 120cm, Big Fat Furry Puss

I am sure you said a 1m Gibertini ??

Me reckons the big boys here are going to fall upon you like a ton 'u bricks.

And you want receive how far west.... with an east? facing aspect. [read: imagining from the current dish position] Cue: Mother sized pole.

When do you move again? (joke) LOL.

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Old 01-11-2006   #362
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Heres some pics from our member digi24 who is based just outside Athens

He says:

On the right
a have a 1.35X1.25 Gibertini using a humax 0.3db lnb
pointing to 28.2/28.5 (unable to receive 2D and the
fixed beam of Eurobird). The dish on the left is a
triax 1.1m using 3 lnbs of Alps (o.3db) for 13,16 and
19.2. The Alps lnbs are famous when you want receive
satellites that are very close to each other (as in my
case) bcs these lnbs are very thin !
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Old 01-11-2006   #363
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Televes uk stock those alps lnbs under there own brand of televe s,

It is cold here i wish i was in athens now

Nice setup btw,


Originally Posted by Analoguesat View Post
Heres some pics from our member digi24 who is based just outside Athens

He says:

On the right
a have a 1.35X1.25 Gibertini using a humax 0.3db lnb
pointing to 28.2/28.5 (unable to receive 2D and the
fixed beam of Eurobird). The dish on the left is a
triax 1.1m using 3 lnbs of Alps (o.3db) for 13,16 and
19.2. The Alps lnbs are famous when you want receive
satellites that are very close to each other (as in my
case) bcs these lnbs are very thin !
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My System: 90cm channel master, jaeger 1224 ,vantage x221tsci, skystar 2, diablo v2.3, setanta on 60cm minidish

think those f connectors need some waterproof tape around them if it ever rains in greece
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My System: 1.2M prime focus with SA58 H-H receiver-New Wave 9000 BP MK II
My motorised setup

My dish a 1.2m prime focus antena with a Invacom 0.3db C120 lnb, the motor is a sa58 H-H which is a little to small for the size of the dish. Its seen a couple of winters now but it keeps on going with the odd tweak here n there

The dish was given to me by my uncle, it came off of a roof top in Ibiza.

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and on the other end of it I have a Newwave 9000 BP MKII receiver my positioner is a SuperTrack DP-6600.

I also have a fixed dish pointing at 28.2 east. I got the 80cm dish with an lnb from the local dump for £5 bargan I think. This dish has got an old Amstrad DRX200 digibox conected to it.
This was also my first dish, originally I had it connected to an analoge box, I used to move the dish between 19,13 & 5 east
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think those f connectors need some waterproof tape around them if it ever rains in greece
Yes they do - I pointed it out when digi24 emailed them to me - hes going to deal with it
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Nice setup,

Originally Posted by satscaner View Post
My dish a 1.2m prime focus antena with a Invacom 0.3db C120 lnb, the motor is a sa58 H-H which is a little to small for the size of the dish. Its seen a couple of winters now but it keeps on going with the odd tweak here n there

The dish was given to me by my uncle, it came off of a roof top in Ibiza.


and on the other end of it I have a Newwave 9000 BP MKII receiver my positioner is a SuperTrack DP-6600.

I also have a fixed dish pointing at 28.2 east. I got the 80cm dish with an lnb from the local dump for £5 bargan I think. This dish has got an old Amstrad DRX200 digibox conected to it.
This was also my first dish, originally I had it connected to an analoge box, I used to move the dish between 19,13 & 5 east
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My System: Thomson Sky+ PVR3, Pace 2200 Sky box, Zone 1 Triax minidish with Thomson Quad LNB, 1m Gibertini and Technomate TM-1500CI+ Super (Patched) 1metre Gibertini at Astra 1 19.2°e

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Looks good martz, apart from the T&Ks being the wrong way around, T should be at the top, having said that, I normally use two K brackets and a T for that sized dish.
sorry to drag up an old topic, but practically everywhere i see has it how i have mine, is everybody getting dodgy installs or what???
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My System: Twin Viaaccess Receiver VACI 4100. 80CM Dish with Twin LNB with DiSEqc Switch. Mini Dish and Sky Plus

I had to have a go at installing my own dish when I heard about the goodies on Art Sports.

I got the dish and LNBs for £1.71 off of Ebay , though I did have to go and pick it up.

The LNBs point at Astra 1 and Hotbird and combine with a diseqc switch. I get just over 1400 channels when I scan both Satellites

Big bolts, big tube, it aint gonna move, to date I have a whole week without going up the ladder to have a jiggle, I think we are sorted for the time being
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My System: 90cm channel master, jaeger 1224 ,vantage x221tsci, skystar 2, diablo v2.3, setanta on 60cm minidish

nice shall get some pics of mine as finally got it setup today
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I got the dish and LNBs for £1.71 off of Ebay , though I did have to go and pick it up.
I can beat that!!! Same dish aswell, one LNB though, it was free!!!!

From a skip of course, and in perfect working order after a clean and a minor reshaping round the edges, just need a house I can attatch it to without having to beg my landlord....
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My System: 90cm channel master, jaeger 1224 ,vantage x221tsci, skystar 2, diablo v2.3, setanta on 60cm minidish

my system triax 88cm dish, edision 0.2 lnb, moteck sg-2100a diseqc motor, webro wf100 cable and techomate tm-1500ci reciever

so it ok for first timer ?
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My System: Echostar AD3000-IP, Manhattan Plaza ST100, Gibertini 1m Dish, Inverto Silver Tech 0.2, Polar Mount, 12 Inch Actuator, Dragon CAM

Looks pretty good to me, although I'd be tempted to tape your co-ax cable to the mount and cleat it to the wall but maybe you took the photo after tightening the last nut and did the taping afterwards??

Looks fine to me.
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My System: 90cm channel master, jaeger 1224 ,vantage x221tsci, skystar 2, diablo v2.3, setanta on 60cm minidish

yes i just need to clip the cable to the wall and maybe get a new mount as the dish is at 28 east in that pic
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