My tiny Hispa dish (through window!)

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Old 08-12-2005   #1
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My tiny Hispa dish (through window!)

Here's the dish I use for Hispasat it measures at just 37.5cm (w) x 42cm (h)! To top it off it is indoors, looking out at the 30 west through double glazing *and* it has the window frame effectively knocking off a little bit more of the width.

I get all the european transponders except: 11535 V, 11579 H, 11615 H, 11676 H, 12547 V and the low symbol rate transponders (which are mostly sporadic feeds).

It's hooked up to a FortecStar Ultimate. I have another dish outside for Astra 1 and 2.
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well done - I never knew that the signal would go through glass. I am interested to know where you are approx to get the signal
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I never liked when neighbours looked at me from behind the windows, hehehe....
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Cheers BGonaSTICK and Maurice1. It really wasn't too difficult to achieve it's making sure you're getting a good signal on all the transponders you want to watch that is the problem (especially when I decide to swing the thing around to 13 east ...or 5 east, 5 west or 8 west!).

Maurice1, I'm located in southern England.

Likvid, it does kinda look like a giant head doesn't it?! It doen't seem so bad from the ground outside but I'm not sure what my neighbours think of it. I don't know if any of 'em have any idea what it is!

Talking about looking at neighbours, see if you can spot a hidden camera in those pictures!
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Talking about looking at neighbours, see if you can spot a hidden camera in those pictures!
Pictures 2, 3 and 6? perhaps?, what are you monitoring???

BTW your pictures remind me of how I started off in satellites reception with a 35cm dish through double glazed patio windows watching BsB on the sat that is now called Thor I think mmm memory fails me

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Yep, 2, 3 and 6. At the moment I'm not monitoring anything (it's off at the switch) but it's a bit of a dodgy neighbourhood so I put it on from time to time. It's also handy to check on taxis, lifts from friends, deliveries and if I get the local kids/salesmen/jehovahs buzzing me.

toppervte33h, you're probably the first person ever to try DTH sat reception behind double glazing (well at least in this country!).
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Are you very lucky !!!! In greece / athens i need dish 1.20 for satellite Hispasat 1D , transponters 24/7, 11535, 11615, . With receiver Echostar 3600 LNB MTI 0.6 Signle.
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Lol reminds me of the time when i worked for sky and this women lived in a flat and she had a sky dish bolted onto the wall furthest away from the window.. when she wanted to watch telly she simply opened her window.. lol.. she lived in a building which didnt allow dishes.. yet the building didnt have a sat dish :S
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Argh! There's me being all chuffed about my setup and now I'm having trouble pulling in the transponders with Fox and MTV2 on!

Weather shouldn't be a problem as the sky has been nice and clear (bar some oil clouds!*) with not a rain cloud in sight.

Looks like signal fluctuations from the satellite - probably wouldn't be a problem if the window was bigger or the dish outside.

*TBH I can only see the oil clouds out my rear windows (to the north).
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Originally Posted by Skip Channel
Yep, 2, 3 and 6. At the moment I'm not monitoring anything (it's off at the switch) but it's a bit of a dodgy neighbourhood so I put it on from time to time. It's also handy to check on taxis, lifts from friends, deliveries and if I get the local kids/salesmen/jehovahs buzzing me.

toppervte33h, you're probably the first person ever to try DTH sat reception behind double glazing (well at least in this country!).
Fraid not - ive seen several pics of folks doing the same.

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Hi Skipchannel

Wow great work! Where did you get the stand from? Where did you get the dish? Have you adapted it from something else? Or was it a Lidl special?

I'm inspired to try to get Astra in my bedroom. Tell me all.

Which way are the oil clouds heading?

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Originally Posted by Skip Channel

Looks like signal fluctuations from the satellite - probably wouldn't be a problem if the window was bigger or the dish outside.
or just try opening the window...

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Fraid not - ive seen several pics of folks doing the same.
in 1989 ??? If that's the case then they beat me

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Here's some more pictures. As you can see I've changed the base (using the sucker mount instead of the clamp) and changed the co-ax to white so it blends in better!

eghamhigh - The dish is a Lidl special! If you're lucky you might be able to get one for £50 off of Ebay. Unfortunately sat dealers don't tend to do them (at least in this country) so Lidl, Ebay or a continental dealer is the way to go. The dish would be a lot cheaper if it came without the receiver (it's not a very good one)! FWIW the oil clouds have passed.

closetosoton - I could open the window but it's freezing cold at the moment! Well, actually the window only opens an inch, I haven't figured out how to open it any more (and it would open up the wrong way anyway)!
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A few years ago I had an indoor dish. It was a 1m tied to a computer swivel chair. After a while I got the hang of how far to move it left and right and how to tilt it slightly forward or backward to get sats from 42E to 15W. There were a few others on that forum that many of us visit who reported setting up a Sky minidish inside, some of them fixed to a wooden plinth or attached to a tripod stand etc. And if you close the curtains no one can see in the window or see your dish.It's amazing how well it sometimes (but not always) works thru D/G.
Skip even asked some questions at the time about it.

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I remember those threads MBK .
Really upset some of the "$ly ladder monkeys" who said that it could not be done, but you and others proved them wrong .
BTW, how is Brenda nowadays ?
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I remember those threads MBK .
Really upset some of the "$ly ladder monkeys" who said that it could not be done, but you and others proved them wrong .
BTW, how is Brenda nowadays ?
Sky said it was imposile to lign a mini dish up without the use of a sat metre.. and they where proved wrong..
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Originally Posted by Milkybarkid
A few years ago I had an indoor dish. It was a 1m tied to a computer swivel chair. After a while I got the hang of how far to move it left and right and how to tilt it slightly forward or backward to get sats from 42E to 15W. There were a few others on that forum that many of us visit who reported setting up a Sky minidish inside, some of them fixed to a wooden plinth or attached to a tripod stand etc.
You people were my inspiration. Well, 'inspiration' may be too strong a word - I'd thought about trying a dish indoors before those threads but dishes used to cost a fair bit and it seemed a waste of money if it didn't work. And as it seemed unlikely to work... well you get the idea! You indoor "pioneers" paved the way for numerous other outdoor-challenged satellite hungry individuals! You proved it could be done!

Unfortunately my dish is never gonna be capable of getting much of what you got and I just don't have the room for a metre dish in me bedroom! But, to blow my own trumpet (ooh er) I believe my setup is probably one of the neatest bedroom install the world has ever seen!

I'm tempted to get another one or two if I can find them cheap enough. I also bought one of those dishes for a mate. I had to try it out to see if it worked okay (I bought it s/h) and had the two on the window sill running through a DiSEqC switch with one pointed to Hispasat and the other to Hotbird. It got me thinking! I'm getting Hotbird sorted for the outside dish and I intend to leave the Hispa dish stationary - so it'd be good to have another dish to swing around to 5 west or 5 east when I feel like it.

Originally Posted by Milkybarkid
And if you close the curtains no one can see in the window or see your dish.It's amazing how well it sometimes (but not always) works thru D/G.
Yeah, it works great with my curtains closed! Also works great through my parents' net curtains and their D/G.

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I sure did - here's a belated thanks
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Sky said it was imposile to lign a mini dish up without the use of a sat metre.. and they where proved wrong..
I know of someone who worked for SiHS who was sent out with *no* satellite meter. He's superiors knew this and just told him to get on with it! This was back in the analogue/Sky Digital switch and the customers were all upgrades (so he was able to use their analogue receivers to manually find the one analogue testcard at 28 east!).
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Short/compact twin LNB?

Here's some closeups of my dish's LNB and how close the protruding part is to the window.

I want to swap the existing LNB for a twin - problem is all the twin/quad LNBs I've seen are pretty long. I don't want to have to move the dish further back from the window (cos as you can see it sits nicely on the sill!), so does anyone know of any suitable twins/quads?
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Very nice Skip Channel, Have you ever thought of going motorised indoors with your dish? That would save you getting up out of your armchair to change satellites.
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If I had a conservatory or some big french/sliding doors! All I got is this lousy window!

I'm happy enough with this staying put on 30w and my outside dish providing 28e, 19.2 (and soon) 13e. I reckon that's four of the best orbital positions for the UK (although 1 west and Arabsat would be nice!).
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