SS2, STAB HH90 + 60cm Sky Dish/LNB


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Old 28-05-2009   #1
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My System: SkyStar2 2.6 PCI - 90cm old Sky dish w/Universal LNB - and more "recycled" dishes (there are 5 on my roof .. not being used !)
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Hi all,

Because of how nice the people in this forum are .. somehow I got more interested in Satellite stuff.

I've bought off Ebay a STAB HH 90 which looks like a nice quality rotor with DiseqC 1.2 anf USALS support.

I have done the following:
PC w/ SkyStar2 PCI v2.6c
Latest original drivers installed (4.5.0 ??)
"Semaphore" working

I connected the rotor and tried to get it moving or do anything at all with the following sw:
- ProgDVB DiseqC "plugin"
- SS2 DiseqC 1.10 => I haven't done the "patching" of the drivers .. is that really necessary ?!?! why the hell doesn't it come as std ?
- FastSat Finder

NOTHING ... no movement at all.

I have read the manual which is not really helpful when it comes to troubleshooting. I have also made sure that I respected all indications.

Questions:
- Is DiseqC "bidirectional" .. is it possible to run diagnostics on the motor (or does the protocol include Error codes reporting)
- Is there some other software I can try ?
- Is the setup of the drivers and cards OK by default to move a Diseqc motor ?
- Is there any "typical" task that I can do for physical checks on the motor ?

Thank you very much as usual !!

Nick

Last edited by nikione; 28-05-2009 at 11:36 PM. Reason: Added the fact that I haven't patched the drivers for SS2DiseqC
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My System: SkyStar2 2.6 PCI - 90cm old Sky dish w/Universal LNB - and more "recycled" dishes (there are 5 on my roof .. not being used !)

Sorry to reply myself ..

I checked and the 1.10 ver doesn't require any patching of the drivers (from 4.4.0 they are "fine").

Anyone else know of any typical problem .. or possible resolutions (see my orig post) ?
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I think more information is required by folks here, e.g. what cable run do you have, as in the type of cable, what length of cable, are the connections made correctly, i.e. no shorts.

A PCI card only has a low power output, is the card sufficiently rated to drive the requirements of the motor?

As you posted in the correct section I assume you have read all the threads
relating to this common PCI card problem

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Originally Posted by nikione View Post
Is DiseqC "bidirectional"
Diseqc 1.x sends messages from the receiver (or v-box) to the device (switch, motor, etc) without any feedback. With Diseqc 2.x the device acknowledges the commands it is sent.
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My System: SkyStar2 2.6 PCI - 90cm old Sky dish w/Universal LNB - and more "recycled" dishes (there are 5 on my roof .. not being used !)

Thanks.

I have checked the power specs of the card and of the motor and they are "compatible".

Unfortunately I do not have a received I can test it with.

The cable run I don't think would matter, it's about 10/15m top (RG58 ?) and there is no disturbances in regards to the LNB transmission (which obviusly is on a very different frequency than diseqc).
I also tested it initally with a "patch" 1.5m cable directly to the pc and it didn't move.

One thing that I noticed is that the SkyStar 2 PCI page on the mfg website states that it's Diseqc 1.0 - However I don't think that would matter as the diff between 1.0 and 1.2 is purely command set I suppose (I.e. newer sw and drivers can make use of it).
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If it's RG58 then you will have real problems, it isn't suitable for satellite installations and will lose 1db/metre, plus it is 50Ohm, not 75Ohm as required.

To drive your motor you need enough power and although the specs of the SS2 would suggest it is OK, many people have had problems.

You need the DiSEqC 1.2 plugin to make it work.

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To drive your motor you need enough power and although the specs of the SS2 would suggest it is OK, many people have had problems.
Just to expand on this: The power to drive the motor is always present on the co-axial line, but the motor only moves when it receives a diseqc command down that same co-axial line from the receiver. This means you can test if there is sufficient power to drive the motor by pressing the manual override button on the motor (assuming your motor has one). If the motor does move when you press this there must be sufficient power and your problem would be software related.
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My System: SkyStar2 2.6 PCI - 90cm old Sky dish w/Universal LNB - and more "recycled" dishes (there are 5 on my roof .. not being used !)

Tnx Huevos, the main problem is that this motor doesn't have ANY manual commands.
At this moment the only practical way to test it is to either buy a diseqc 1.2 capable receiver box or to buy a diseqc 1.2 motor controller
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