SECA 2 now available on Dragon CAM

**rolfw** · 05-03-2004

As per subject, also rumoured to be coming to a Titanium card near you soon.

**rolfw** · 05-03-2004

Sky Italia are not going to be too happy.

**rolfw** · 05-03-2004

Apparently the Titanium file is being tested at the moment, but is a bit unstable as of yet.

philengland · 05-03-2004

thats good! - now all i will need to do is get a titanium card! - where is cheapest?

**rolfw** · 05-03-2004

They vary in price quite considerably Phil, haven't really shopped around as I tend to be boring ans stick to one supplier. Have you checked out the advertisers at the top of the forum, not sure what their prices are like, but best get one quick, I can see supplies being tight.

**Channel Hopper** · 05-03-2004

And then theres going to be some quick boardroom meetings at Top Up TV towers

**rolfw** · 05-03-2004

LOL, yes, hadn't even considered that one, shades of OnDigital over again.

PS. For those who are members at Toecutters, this is the link for the Dragon file

**jimbo_may** · 05-03-2004

rolfw, you mean if i get a dragon cam i will be able to get channels that require Seca2??

**rolfw** · 05-03-2004

Some of them yes, but if you already have either an Aston Seca 1.05 Cam or MR, the Titanium files should follow shortly.

05-03-2004

Originally Posted by Channel Hopper

And then theres going to be some quick boardroom meetings at Top Up TV towers

Don't get too happy yet

whilst it works yes thats great but

if you have an Echostar3000ip youve again got the famous pixalation problem that appeared with conax on magic cam

I do't think the processor in echostar can cope with this encryption and cam

all other encryptions Ok but again no Via at 5e as with preditor 1.0

however I'm no knocking the dream team they have started the ball rolling lets hope they solve the problem and don't just abandon us as they did with Magic modules

**jimbo_may** · 05-03-2004

I have MR but to be honest i cant wait any longer, i miss the days where i could view nice channels, how long will the titanium files will fellow?

**rolfw** · 05-03-2004

I don't think that it will be long.

bradle01 · 05-03-2004

I will never cease to be amazed at the jubilation that surrounds people's discovery that an encryption system can be accessed using products that use allegedly illicit software, and their irritation when a broadcaster does something aout it. Is this a game, or something? Do you all honestly believe that broadcasters and encryption companies aren't doing their level best to stop such mischief in its tracks.

Why buy a Dragon CAM (or anything else of that ilk anyway), when the legitimate Seca CAM works fine (with an official card).

Canal Digitaal has already blocked the use of such hardware, the french and poles won't be far behind.

Only a few days ago a customer came in with a failed Ultra Blue card and what looked like a standard Irdeto 2 CAM. But it had been flashed by the retailer and the customer wasn't even told. So the UB card had failed.

I believe that ANY reference to any product of this type on this or any other website visible or any publication distributed in the EU constitutes a breach of the Conditional Access Directive and the Sale and Supply to Consumers Directive.

And the sooner the users of this forum (and the rest of the world too) realises that every time they access a service without paying for it they are stealing ordinary peoples' jobs from them, the better.

IT'S THEFT - YOU CALL IT FUN - I CALL IT THEFT - AND THAT'S A CRIME.

**sgar** · 05-03-2004

Does anyone know if a Titanium will work on a Black Ice Cam, i know it doesnt work for Conax, but maybe being seca ?

**jimbo_may** · 05-03-2004

Bradle01, thanks for your point of view, keep paying and we keep hacking, i wont pay money to view, have a nice day.

downsouth · 05-03-2004

Making you pay for tv you don't want - now thats theft.
If I could watch Thor (Live footy on SAT AFTERNOON)legally without having to piss around, do you think I would bother to get pirate card. Sorry, but I dont want to pay £40.00 a month to watch Southampton v Charlton, It aint gonna happen. Seca 2. whoops. Top up TV whoopsie dayzee. It is very convenient that just as a competitor to Rupert pops up, then it gets hacked. Just like On Digital. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm very interesting

joaquinain · 05-03-2004

Rolf, where may we get the Titanium files for Seca2??? I'd like to try them...

**sgar** · 05-03-2004

Originally Posted by downsouth

It is very convenient that just as a competitor to Rupert pops up, then it gets hacked. Just like On Digital. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm very interesting

Dont forget that Rupert is also using Seca2 in Italy....

***howard*** · 05-03-2004

could anyone give me a clue what this hack will open? is it a s*y thing or will it open movies, sport, adult etc?

cheers

**diarmuid** · 05-03-2004

Bradley is correct. Piracy is a crime. So why do so many of us spread throughout Europe need to resort to unofficial cards and keys?

Because the broadcasters operate either a monopoly type situation or a form of cartel. In the UK I cannot buy a French subscription channel card or Dutch or German. Why not? I thought the EU was a "common market". Yes if its Yoghourt or Telephones but not TV transmissions.

I have applied for an official card from France and the Netherlands and was refused. No explanation was offered. If I was to use an unofficial card who is to blame?

I am a Sky subscribr who likes to watch football. In order to do this I am forced to buy the complete package at the top of the range price. Why? I only want Sports coverage.

When the broadcasting moguls face true competition we won't have to resort to unofficial channels.

BTW, there are no job losses in the UK if I were to buy an unofficial French or Dutch or German card.

**steviewilson** · 05-03-2004

Originally Posted by jimbo_may

Bradle01, thanks for your point of view, keep paying and we keep hacking, i wont pay money to view, have a nice day.

Well I probably would but its far too expensive. Get the price WAY down and cut down on piracy, mabey!

Stevie

**johnnymac** · 05-03-2004

Originally Posted by bradle01

>Snip

And the sooner the users of this forum (and the rest of the world too) realises that every time they access a service without paying for it they are stealing ordinary peoples' jobs from them, the better.

IT'S THEFT - YOU CALL IT FUN - I CALL IT THEFT - AND THAT'S A CRIME.

Long may it continue, if only to spoil the profits of the importers of over priced official cards (still a very grey area)

johnnymac

bradle01 · 05-03-2004

At least your reply was polite

I have an opinion and so do you.

I don't expect the vulgar abuse I got through one recent private message. None of you will get that from me.

Originally Posted by jimbo_may

Bradle01, thanks for your point of view, keep paying and we keep hacking, i wont pay money to view, have a nice day.

**Channel Hopper** · 05-03-2004

Bradle, I dont think any of the moderators here are jubilant of whats happening. Some fellow posters may or may not be able to legitimately subscribe to many of the offerings on foreign TV, and so the need to get it by alternative means becomes a reason for the underground market existing.

If the various companies buying and selling on programme content used a fairer method for giving everyone the choice of what they wanted, by removal of territorial rights (there really is no reason apart from artificially raising revenue by the virtue of restricting the choice) , and maybe providing a better distribution of content by removal of the 'must have 'channel X, Y and Z just to get a preferred sports channel, then this sort of jubilation might well be dampened down.

**rolfw** · 05-03-2004

You are welcome to your opinion Bradle01, but you are not welcome to spam post it in multiple forums, I have removed the offending duplicate posts. PS, not coincidental that you happen to sell these overpriced subscription cards for sex channels.

A great percentage of the members here do subscribe to their home providers, I for one do, but cannot legitimately buy subscriptions for these other providers, at least not without using an overpricing intermediary.

PS Why did you join the forum if you dislike the things we discuss?

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