New Sky freesat Cards

jasmine1

I think five is now free on sky no card needed.Yes just double checked b4 posting.

joddle

Yes that's right - but no Five US or Fiver yet - Its slowly getting there with Freesat and I hope soon there will be no need for any Sky card for anything - and then I can stop giving Mr Murdoch even more money!! Roll on the day

Tivù

The trouble is, 2D is crammed to the gunwhales: It was enough of a struggle finding a slot for Five itself last May, when Freesat launched.

IIRC they shifted BBC News off to make space.

Gawd knows how anything else can go FTA on 2D unless Sky can be persuaded to relinquish one or more of the five (I think) TPs they still have populated by Subscription stuff on there.

Any good Arm-Twisters out there?

joddle

Another problem is that the so called freesat card from Sky is not very good value for money as it was before as more channels can be received using a freesat box ie are not encrypted. The "extras" supplied from the sky card are pretty limited and for many people not really worth having - the exceptions used to be Ch4 and Ch5 but now both of these are freely available. I can see that many people won't bother renewing their sky freesat cards next time they do a card swap which may please Sky as they lose money on it and anyway if you are content with the basic channels then at least you will get a handful of HD channels as well by usng a freesat box!

Tivù

Well I have one which isn't due to be replaced for free by Sky and I certainly see no need to shell out any of SWMBOs hard-earned cash for a White one.


FTA lures, ko ?

fenster

Hello from germany, reading through the lines Five is free watchable I'm confused because here I even did not get Five and all related five*** channels decoded anymore with an blue yellow card that actual shows freesat entitlements til 2012

You may admit that's not a great loss, but I watched the channels sometimes and as I can't receive the astra 2A beam... so I prolly need a new freesat card.

Where to get one Ebay uk was my 1st starting point, either prices are or people have none experience.
Got one from there to an fair price, unfortunately as she never was in use before digibox gave me these annoying "... not authorised" msg, card had none entitlements on it and also IRD serial was missing. Contacting the seller about these "phone to sky - to get activation via sat" dunno the reason(s) why he avoid these way, so I hope his "refund on return" will work at least


So let's say I've an friendly person in the UK that own a sky subscription (like HD or whatever) that buys one freesat/viewing card, put it into his digibox and activate them either via attached phone line or calling sky for activation signal via satellite and after all thats done ship it to me - will that work without any trouble for both sides, did the card then contains only the freesat entitlements or the full package

joddle

Well first you do have to activate the sky cards (unless someone has already done that for you) and you have to do this by phoning Sky using a UK telephone line and you need to have a sky box handy to pair the card with although that part becomes irrelevant later as once activated the freesat cards can be use in any sky box. So if you don't live in the UK there are only three options.

The first and most simple way is to buy a card ready activated from one of the many dealers who do that in Spain - they will supply an activated card for a suitable fee - but as you have already found out there are sharks around so beware and check all the details before buying and check for which UK area the card is activated as it makes a huge difference to the channels you can get in fringe areas. Go for Tyne Tees South if you can choose.

The second most simple way is to get someone in the UK to do it for you and once the card is activated it will work in any Sky box (ONLY FREESAT CARDS DO THIS - SUB CARDS WILL NOT PASS FROM BOX TO BOX)) The conditions are that they must have a sky box and dish to be able to do this.

A third and more complex way is to lie - IE phone Sky using a system like Voip Discount or Skype which are capable of being configured to show a registered UK telephone number which will show to the sky operator so they will believe you are in the UK. You then need to be able to quote a valid UK address and postcode (so they can configure the card) so need someone in the UK to agree to give you such information. You also need to have a sky box and dish capable of getting a reasonable signal so they can sent the activation to the card. You have to plan all this carefully before calling IE have the address, postcode and the UK telephone number and details all prepared. Its all a bit risky and if you are found out they will turn off the card.

fenster

thanks for your complex answering joddle, meanwhile I got an card for an reasonable price

Zorba

How much and where from ?

fenster

around 36 Euro (well not really cheap but ok) and from e b a y

btw as I got the card she had full access to all channels expect premium ones due missing boxkey, meanwhile after renewing the entitlements she's working like purchased - as FSFS-card

PaulR

fenster

I hesitate to ask this but what colour is the card?

PaulR As I get older I find myself thinking about the hereafter - I go into a room and then wonder what I'm here after.

Tivù

I was thinking the same myself when I first saw this earlier today - but didn't dare ask!

It just seems a little early for White Cards to be surplus to requirements and made available by other means ................

Pheeny

according to Sky they are FTA

_http://packages.sky.com/see/FreeAirChannels.aspx

fenster

of course a white card and why it's too early
... if you calculate an FSFS-card £20 that's around 22.10 Euro actual + postage for an letter to europe - so not a real bad deal for both sides, the seller makes some xtra cash and if you see what those in-official "resellers" like insatinternational "devours" for such FSFS-card

Tivù

Chiefly because folk usually bung their expired Subs Cards on Ebay and the White ones have only been out a maximum of a few months.

Anyway, good that you've got one

Tivù

They are FTV, not FTA.

That appallingly badly produced page also says

"GET 200 FREEVIEW TV CHANNELS WITH YOUR SKY PACKAGE

With any Sky TV package you choose, you also get access to more than 200 TV and radio channels for free. Included are terrestrial channels like BBC1, BBC2, ITV1 and Channel 4, as well as all those provided by Freeview™. "

So whoever they've got creating their Web Content not only doesn't know the difference between FTA and FTV, but doesn't realise that the Digital Terrestrial Freeview package is not fully available free on Satellite - Where, for example, is Dave?

Pheeny

so looks like I'll need a new card soon then

fenster

that's true but you'll find their sometimes also those white cards, on the other hand e b a y usual kicks those auctions (often also the old cards)

Pheeny

just checked,Fiver/FiveUS are FTV.But my old card is still working.Might just get myself a freesat decoder next time I visit family in Blighty...

Pheeny

Just seen that Five is also FTV hopefully my old card will last a bit longer.

rolfw

Five is also FTA.

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Pheeny

I tried that but it doesn't seem to work.Just says no signal found.

Pheeny

Reset my box and now it works. Thanks

jno

I received my FTV (Freesat from Sky) white replacement card yesterday, posted by a relative from the UK.

However, the relative did not send the pre-paid envelope for the return of the old card which the letter says I must do ... as I am in the UK in short while it won't matter but does anyone know the address?

Does it even matter if I don't send the old card back, I cannot see Sky cutting me off but a charge maybe? 20 quid probably, haha