ITV1+1 October 1st

***woborny*** · 01-09-2009

From Latest News thread...

According to the AGB Nielsen site ITV1 +1 launches on October 1st

more from here
_http://www.agbnielsen.co.uk/agb/files/ClientServices/New%20BARB%20Channels/Implementation%20-%20ITV1+1.doc

where the heck are they going to put those 6 frequencies then....will the squeeze them onto exisiting itv 2d frequencies??????
Or make them FTV?

**Analoguesat** · 01-09-2009

At a guess 1 FTA for Freesat and the rest FTV.

***Huevos*** · 01-09-2009

Doesn't that document relate to terrestrial?

***woborny*** · 01-09-2009

Originally Posted by Huevos

Doesn't that document relate to terrestrial?

apart from the bit in the document that says

"From October 1st, the channel(s) will be broadcast on the Digital Satellite and Digital Cable (Virgin Media) platforms. Broadcast hours will be between 10:25 - 07:00 (20.5 hours). "

what makes you think that?

BARB cover all broadcast TV channels....not just terrestrial....i think RADAR do the radio stations....

***Huevos*** · 01-09-2009

Originally Posted by woborny

what makes you think that?

I didn't read it properly. The bit that confused me was "It will not be available in Scotland, Ulster or Channel Isles. Screens will be blank in these regions".

***Tivù*** · 01-09-2009

Originally Posted by Huevos

I didn't read it properly. The bit that confused me was "It will not be available in Scotland, Ulster or Channel Isles. Screens will be blank in these regions".

I suspect (but don't know for sure) that they are stating that on the basis that at its simplest both B SkyB and Freesat need a Postcode to assign the correct Region and EPG slot.

Of course, we all know that you can do whatever you wish in that respect with a non-Platform Receiver for FTA.

For those that Regions are probably going to be FTV, Sky Cardholders can still use the laborious "Add Channels" methodology to get access to "out of area" variants.

Freesat users in Scotland often have to select ITV London just to get access to the Red Button for ITV HD when certain programmes (usually Football) are shown.

I think these rather sweeping statements are made for the mainstream "high level" user who just wants to look at a fixed EPG.

***Huevos*** · 01-09-2009

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

At a guess 1 FTA for Freesat and the rest FTV.

What's the criteria for how many channels fit on a transponder? Transponder 41 has 10 channels, but others only have 6 or 7.

**Analoguesat** · 01-09-2009

Originally Posted by Huevos

I didn't read it properly. The bit that confused me was "It will not be available in Scotland, Ulster or Channel Isles. Screens will be blank in these regions".

Central/Northern Scotland, Ulster & the Channel Islands are not part of the ITV network and presumably wont have epg numbers mapped to the ITV1 +1streams.

Of course anyone with a bit of knowledge will be able to add channels or use other boxes to watch them

**bite** · 01-09-2009

On which beam these channels will be? I think, that 2D doesn't have any much space left...

**Analoguesat** · 01-09-2009

We dont know at the moment, but I cant see them all being squeezed onto 2D unless some of the other ITV 1 streams are discontinued or moved.

***Tivù*** · 01-09-2009

It beats me why they're apparently needed anyway.

**Topper** · 01-09-2009

Originally Posted by Tivù

It beats me why they're apparently needed anyway.

Some people in this world are constantly one hour behind...

Others like swmbo, who watch 5 programs at the same time like to follow up an hour later to catch the bits they missed whilst watching the other 4

***Zorba*** · 01-09-2009

The ident 12199 on 12.402v has just starting showing normal ITV ,its been blank for a long time. 10135 on 10.832H is still blank. I wonder if that will show ITV1+1.

***Huevos*** · 02-09-2009

Originally Posted by Topper

Some people in this world are constantly one hour behind...

Like the Brits. They're always one hour behind the rest of Europe.

***Tivù*** · 02-09-2009

Originally Posted by Huevos

Like the Brits. They're always one hour behind the rest of Europe.

And yet .................

The rest of the world still uses our glorious Greenwich Meridian (Even though it has been sanitised into UTC. Yuk!).

**Topper** · 02-09-2009

Originally Posted by Huevos

Like the Brits. They're always one hour behind the rest of Europe.

You Europeans are as bad at timekeeping as you are at geography the Greenwich Meridian is in the UK so regret to inform you that Europe got it wrong.....nothing new there then

***Huevos*** · 02-09-2009

Originally Posted by Topper

You Europeans are as bad at timekeeping as you are at geography the Greenwich Meridian is in the UK so regret to inform you that Europe got it wrong

The Greenwich Meridian passes just a few kilometres from here but we call it 0º longitude.

**Topper** · 02-09-2009

Originally Posted by Huevos

The Greenwich Meridian passes just a few kilometres from here but we call it 0º longitude.

God forbid Europe should adopt something British

It's a long line indeed, Did you know you were late for work?

If time zones based upon longitude are good enough for the rest of the world why does Europe insist upon not using them. Is there some hidden benefit that we are not aware of? Or perhaps it is the case that the UK has refused to budge on the issue

Originally Posted by woborny

Broadcast hours will be between 10:25 - 07:00 (20.5 hours)

Does seem strange as it is indicative of time sharing but the hours seem odd I cannot think of any another channels that broadcast between 07.00 am and 10.30 am only

***Huevos*** · 02-09-2009

Originally Posted by Topper

If time zones based upon longitude are good enough for the rest of the world why does Europe insist upon not using them. Is there some hidden benefit that we are not aware of?

Sorry about the hijack, but, as is it is a question... I don't really understand what you mean. The timezones in Europe are loosely based on longitude. The EU covers three timezones, EET which is UTC+2 (Cyprus, Greece, Finland, etc); CET (France, Germany, Italy, etc); and UTC (UK/Eire, Portugal, Canaries). DST is in sync across the lot.

**bite** · 02-09-2009

Originally Posted by Topper

Does seem strange as it is indicative of time sharing but the hours seem odd I cannot think of any another channels that broadcast between 07.00 am and 10.30 am only

I think, that on this time channel will be just blank... GMTV is on air from 6 - 9:30 (on usual ITV1, so count +1 hour to the time)...

**Topper** · 02-09-2009

Originally Posted by bite

I think, that on this time channel will be just blank... GMTV is on air from 6 - 9:30 (on usual ITV1, so count +1 hour to the time)...

But ITV1 is 24/7 so why the interruption on ITV1 + 1 for 3 1/2 hours, it does not stack up at all unless, as you have already noted, GM TV just don't want to be involved in the ITV1 +1

Originally Posted by Huevos

The EU covers three timezones, EET which is UTC+2 (Cyprus, Greece, Finland, etc); CET (France, Germany, Italy, etc); and UTC (UK/Eire, Portugal, Canaries). DST is in sync across the lot.

Ah right well I have misunderstood...... I was not aware that Portugal was UTC, never been there

**Analoguesat** · 02-09-2009

They will have a holding card up for the time GMTV is off air - something along the lines of ITV1 +1 returns at 10.25

**jno** · 03-09-2009

Jeremy Kyle one hour later - amazing, now all those on the dole watching everyday can have an hour longer in bed ...

Seriously though, I suppose this has to come in time - but +1 channels are a bit of a cop out, I would rather see more decent programming.

**bite** · 03-09-2009

Well, DMAX is even better, with +1 ; +1,5 ; +2

***Zorba*** · 03-09-2009

Well, one advantage for us over here is we cannot receive ITV4 but we can receive ITV4+1. Handy for watching some Champions league games after watching another live match on a different channel.

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