RTE In the UK - Can you help?

mackerorama · 25-08-2007

Thats me all set up. thanks for your help - Denis1501 especially.

Exiled · 15-11-2007

Dennis1501

You sound like man who knows what he is talking about. I was hopeing you could review my steps below which are the steps i plan to follow to try and recieve RTE in the UK.

First my situation in the Uk.
I have no sky box or dish, no phone line and us a free view box for TV.

My situation in ireland
i have an address which has a phone line (is this needed) but no subscribed Sky but it has a dish and some sort of card which is all free it was fitted by friend for my parents. This only works in one room however.

My plan.

1. Go on Ebay

and buy a Sky+ Box
2. Phone sky and get a contract only sent out to irish address and explain i already have an out of contract box.
3. Bring card to UK and insert the card in the box i have bought.
4. Phone sky ireland to activate new irish card giving all Irish details as per contract.

Queries

1. Do i need a sky dish also for the UK house. (i would of thought so.)
2. Do i need the phone line at the irish address as if in the future i require a full sky instalation at irish address i don't want service at the UK address effected.
3. What packages work best from sky through this set up
4. what type of sky box works best and what kind of money should i expext to pay for a new or very good box or where is the best place to find one.
also what should be included with box for full package and no hassle.

Thanks for your time

**denis1501** · 15-11-2007

Hi buddy,
I'll certainly try to help you out.
It sounds like your parents have a FTV card at the Irish house, ie no Sky sub, so no problems getting a card and contract sent to that address.
The only part where your plan may falter is that you intend to buy a Sky + box in which to activate the card. Sky MAY insist on the box having called back home before they will activate the card. This means you would have to connect your Sky + to an IRISH phone line in order to do the callback. Pretty difficult to do that if you're in London!

Your queries:

1. Do i need a sky dish also for the UK house. (i would of thought so.)
Absolutely yes, how do you expect to receive a signal?? And make sure you get a quad lnb, Sky + needs two inputs.

2. Do i need the phone line at the irish address as if in the future i require a full sky instalation at irish address i don't want service at the UK address effected.
Only if Sky require a callback before activation, then you can safely disconnect. No effect at UK home, just don't ever connect a phone line there.

3. What packages work best from sky through this set up
All packages work fine but to get RTE etc you must have the variety pack.

4. what type of sky box works best and what kind of money should i expect to pay for a new or very good box or where is the best place to find one.
A V3 Sky + should cost you around a hundred quid or so, I recently bought one for myself, a Pace, for €149. Otherwise you might like to go HD with the Thomson box for around £230 or so.

also what should be included with box for full package and no hassle.
In the case of Sky + all cabling you require for the box itself is included.
With the HD box you should also receive a HDMI lead and quad LNB.
Dish installation, cabling etc are separate, can't advise on those costs, sorry.

regards
D.

Exiled · 15-11-2007

Thanks Denis

just a few questions on the cabling and set up if you don't mind,

i have a tv socket in each room with a cable running to each room from under the stairs where i plan to put in a central multiple distributer which will give me tv in each room. is this only possible with cable tv now and not with sky

what is the benifit of the HD box if i don't have a HD tv and do i need a HD cable for it, also what size dish would suffice in London the reception must be good there

Again thanks for your help

piggs · 23-01-2008

Hi there- Im looking for help on this matter- Im living in the UK and currently have no sky (dish, box etc..) In ireland- my parents have sky multiroom. Could I take out a sky sub here and change my address to an ROI one in order to get RTE etc..?

**Analoguesat** · 23-01-2008

You would need to subscribe at an Irish address. Use your parents one, but you will need a full price sub - you cant add on another multiroom sub for cheap viewing!

piggs · 23-01-2008

so if my parents take out another multiroom subscription and send me the card- it should work? Can i simply take out my UK viewing card and throw it asside? What about connecting to a phone line (for both me and my parents)?

Prodelin · 23-01-2008

Are you forced on Sky installation or can you say you do it DIY when you are a new subscriber?

piggs · 23-01-2008

im not sure what the situation is with getting a dish independently installed- getting sky 2 do it would be handy all round.

benifa · 24-01-2008

It's very simple, I don't know why others have been so complicated about it.

All you have to do is subscribe to Sky at your UK address. Get whatever package you want, minimum, full or anything in between - it doesn't matter. Let Sky come and install a dish and box for you. Go via www.quidco.com and receive £130 for doing it.

A week after install, email them (via online webform) and tell them you've moved to Ireland, and here's my Irish address. I recommend you give your parent's address + A. For example, if they live at 21 Viewmount Drive, ask Sky to change your address to 21A Viewmount Drive. That way it won't flag that the address you give already has an active Sky subscription in someone else's name. State that you've taken your dish and box with you, and are happy to install yourself and do not require an engineer. Sky will simply convert your current UK sub into an Irish sub (charge in Euros, of course). And bingo, ROI EPG - no extra cost to you, and no hassle either. Bye bye Five, hello TG4.

**Analoguesat** · 24-01-2008

Originally Posted by piggs

so if my parents take out another multiroom subscription and send me the card- it should work? Can i simply take out my UK viewing card and throw it asside? What about connecting to a phone line (for both me and my parents)?

You cant. Multi room has to be connected to the same phone line at all times - its actively policed to specifically stop people using multiroom in 2 locations..

**Analoguesat** · 24-01-2008

Originally Posted by Prodelin

Are you forced on Sky installation or can you say you do it DIY when you are a new subscriber?

If you DIY you just need to ask for a "second hand box contract". No problems there.

Prodelin · 24-01-2008

I am setting up a PO Box in Ireland, then email Sky customer service and ask for subscription and tell them i already have a Pace Sky box.

Would that work? will they send the card to the PO Box?

**rolfw** · 24-01-2008

I doubt it and don't think they'd action a request from an Email either.

Prodelin · 24-01-2008

I tell them later that i live in a caravan without phone but only mobile phone and have no address, that's why i use a PO box.

**Analoguesat** · 24-01-2008

A caravan in Tunisia?

Prodelin · 24-01-2008

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

A caravan in Tunisia?

No on Ireland of course

**Analoguesat** · 24-01-2008

Or Sweden possibly

piggs · 24-01-2008

Originally Posted by benifa

It's very simple, I don't know why others have been so complicated about it.

All you have to do is subscribe to Sky at your UK address. Get whatever package you want, minimum, full or anything in between - it doesn't matter. Let Sky come and install a dish and box for you. Go via www.quidco.com and receive £130 for doing it.

A week after install, email them (via online webform) and tell them you've moved to Ireland, and here's my Irish address. I recommend you give your parent's address + A. For example, if they live at 21 Viewmount Drive, ask Sky to change your address to 21A Viewmount Drive. That way it won't flag that the address you give already has an active Sky subscription in someone else's name. State that you've taken your dish and box with you, and are happy to install yourself and do not require an engineer. Sky will simply convert your current UK sub into an Irish sub (charge in Euros, of course). And bingo, ROI EPG - no extra cost to you, and no hassle either. Bye bye Five, hello TG4.

But when sky are installing at my UK address- will they not insist on connecting the system to a phone line? How do I avoid that?

**Topper** · 24-01-2008

Originally Posted by piggs

But when sky are installing at my UK address- will they not insist on connecting the system to a phone line? How do I avoid that?

I am not a legal eagle but according to the Terms and Conditions of the Sky contract a new subscription must be connected to a telephone line at all times for the 1st 12 months of the contract, but if I remember correctly there are people on this board who have ignored that rule and have got away with it.

piggs · 24-01-2008

Originally Posted by Topper

I am not a legal eagle but according to the Terms and Conditions of the Sky contract a new subscription must be connected to a telephone line at all times for the 1st 12 months of the contract, but if I remember correctly there are people on this board who have ignored that rule and have got away with it.

Well, I spoke to one of those guys at a sky stall in a local mall today, and he said a phone wasnt needed- however- I would have to pay more for the installation (~£50 cf ~£20) and that I couldnt avail of pay-per-view services (no big loss IMO)!

**Analoguesat** · 24-01-2008

Thats correct - its possible to pay a 25 quid waiver fee to avoid the phone requirement

(And before anyone asks this IS NOT POSSIBLE for multiroom installs - BOTH boxes have to be connected to the SAME operational phone line for the entire life of the multiroom sub....)

**Analoguesat** · 24-01-2008

Originally Posted by Topper

I am not a legal eagle but according to the Terms and Conditions of the Sky contract a new subscription must be connected to a telephone line at all times for the 1st 12 months of the contract, but if I remember correctly there are people on this board who have ignored that rule and have got away with it.

Me for one

Although I installed all my own kit - there was no way I was going to let a sky ladder monkey anywhere near my satellite kit!

piggs · 25-01-2008

Thats great then! No phone line needed! Will there be any problems phoning sky up to change my address to an ROI one? ( Can use my parents' address- as it's a townland with many different spellings?) Is it true ill need to sign a new contract (there's nothing in the "moving home" part of their website to suggest so)?

**Analoguesat** · 25-01-2008

Make sure its a valid address - there are rumours of a card swap later this year, and if your card gets mailed out then returned as "undeliverable" the account will be cancelled!

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