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23-07-2008
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Reported on another forum that 10714 on 2d is carrying all the regional Channel 4´s. Can someone confirm. This is not good news | ||
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23-07-2008
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| Super Moderator  Real name: Paul Join Date: 07-05-2007 Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
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My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s | Trigs, correct 10.714 have 7 regional ch4's tagged as 9xxx May we loose 2A ch4 soon? Not good for Lanza...... SM  | ||
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23-07-2008
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My System: ADSL 1 Meg., SKY HD (Thomson DSI8215WD), Sky+ 160, TDT (Spanish freeview) | But remember Channel 4 HD is on 2A South beam and carries all the same programmes as C4. Maybe a few people are going to have to start considering upgrading their kit. | ||
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23-07-2008
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| Specialist Contributor Real name: Richard Join Date: 04-09-2003 Location: Gran Canaria, Spain
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My System: ADSL 1 Meg., SKY HD (Thomson DSI8215WD), Sky+ 160, TDT (Spanish freeview) | Anyone know why 10714H has 7 versions of C4 when ther are only 6 on the current TP ? BTW - what size dish are you receiving C4 on at present in Lanzarote? As far as I know only the "big dishes" (2.4m CM or 3.2 prime focus) can receive it here on GC. | ||
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23-07-2008
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| Super Moderator Real name: Paul Join Date: 07-05-2007 Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
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My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s | Channel 4 FTV on 12.168V can be received with a 1.2M | ||
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| Specialist Contributor Real name: Richard Join Date: 04-09-2003 Location: Gran Canaria, Spain
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My System: ADSL 1 Meg., SKY HD (Thomson DSI8215WD), Sky+ 160, TDT (Spanish freeview) |
I have an 80cm on the other house with a Sky subscription but this means my guests (it's a holiday rental) only get the South beams and Eurobird fixed. I would seriously consider upgrading to a 1.2m if it would get me the North beams - my goodness, that would even include ITV1 now!. | |||
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23-07-2008
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| Specialist Contributor Real name: Richard Join Date: 04-09-2003 Location: Gran Canaria, Spain
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My System: ADSL 1 Meg., SKY HD (Thomson DSI8215WD), Sky+ 160, TDT (Spanish freeview) | New information: A version of C4 labeled "TT on 4" has appeared on 12480 V (which is the C4+1 TP on 2A North), it is not a +1 version. I can receive it FTV, it does not work without a Sky viewing card. | ||
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| Super Moderator Real name: Paul Join Date: 07-05-2007 Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
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1.2Mtr North beams, South beams and Eurobird fixed. NO S1 beam with this size dish. 80cm South beams only Although..... North beams can come & go when it rains which is about once a year, LOL Speak to Trigger, he is out there all the time and hopefully can confirm the above. Satman | |||
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23-07-2008
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23-07-2008
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| Super Moderator Real name: Paul Join Date: 07-05-2007 Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
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My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s | Update: Re - Tag 9xxx on 10.714h, They seem to be blocking here in the UK I noticed and as of 10 minutes ago weren't showing a picture at all. Maybe someone else can check here... | ||
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| Specialist Contributor Real name: Richard Join Date: 04-09-2003 Location: Gran Canaria, Spain
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My System: ADSL 1 Meg., SKY HD (Thomson DSI8215WD), Sky+ 160, TDT (Spanish freeview) |
BTW - we don't get the Eurobird S1 here even with the "big" dishes. I think it last rained here in 2005 - LOL. | |||
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23-07-2008
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My System: 30W,7W,13E,16E,19E & 28E Dishes everywhere Darkbox 2008HD Sly+ V3 | In Lanzarote you will actually get CH4 on a good 1M dish with decent LNB but 1.2 is the norm. Eurobird S1 on a 3M is only good until about 7pm at present. But a 3M dish peaked on Eurobird S1 will not receive 2D all day. A 3M peaked on 2D will see nothing of S1. | ||
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23-07-2008
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| Super Moderator Real name: Paul Join Date: 07-05-2007 Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
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My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s | What do you do Triggs, align between the two or just go for 2d?? | ||
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23-07-2008
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My System: 30W,7W,13E,16E,19E & 28E Dishes everywhere Darkbox 2008HD Sly+ V3 | For BBC etc its gotta be on 2D. The only people that want S1 are the bookies that work some of the bars want S1 for Racing UK etc and as most racing has finished by the time the signal goes its not a problem. | ||
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23-07-2008
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| Super Moderator Real name: Paul Join Date: 07-05-2007 Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
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My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s | It is interesting though when looking at the footprint of 28e North beams into the 'Canaries' on lyngsat. It's just not accurate enough.  _http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/astra2a_north.html | ||
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24-07-2008
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My System: ADSL 1 Meg., SKY HD (Thomson DSI8215WD), Sky+ 160, TDT (Spanish freeview) | Forget lyngsat, flysat is a much better site. The reason it doesn't show the Canaries is because we are well outside the "official" footprint. For example, the 2D footprint does not show the Canaries, but we can receive the Horizontal TPs with a 2.4 m offset dish. | ||
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24-07-2008
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Remember South beam does but officially North beams don't come down that far but in reality they do with the same size dish | |||
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24-07-2008
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My System: 3.2M Dish Invacom C120 UNI Quad LNB QDF-031, NF 0.3dB PACE DS430N | I can confirm that with my Sly box, I can tune in the C4 from 10714H (in Cyprus). But the pictures are pretty pixalated. This is strange since the ITV regions which used to come from this frquency were pretty near damn perfect all the time! Maybe C4 are uplinking on a lower power? Mike | ||
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24-07-2008
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| Super Moderator Real name: Paul Join Date: 07-05-2007 Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
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My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s | Well in UK, blocking Channel 4 here also now on 10.714 on Technomate receiver. Sl<y dodgybox, no picture due to errors so bad, blank screen. | ||
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| Specialist Contributor Real name: Richard Join Date: 04-09-2003 Location: Gran Canaria, Spain
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My System: ADSL 1 Meg., SKY HD (Thomson DSI8215WD), Sky+ 160, TDT (Spanish freeview) |
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24-07-2008
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| Super Moderator Real name: Paul Join Date: 07-05-2007 Location: South Midlands, UK & Lanzarote, Canary Islands
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My System: Zone1, DSI8215 SkyHD, Thomson DSI4214, TF5000CI, Dreambox DM800 HD PVR - Nab BH0.12, TM-5200D, Gibertini 104cm, SNH-031, 36v Actuator, Vbox-II, 42°E to 30°W, Sling Media, Televes H45 Digital Processing Analyser, Satlook Micro+G2 NIT, Rover SDM 1s | Although I rigged up a spectrum meter this morning and monitored 10.714H and found the signal measurements to be satisfactory | ||
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24-07-2008
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Blog Entries: 1 My System: Triple Dragon with HDD/USB stick, Dreambox 8000, Humax HDCI2000, Echostar AD3000ip & SR8700, Aston Simba, RSD ODM300. Swedish Microwave 1.2 Motorised dish / Invacom C120 twin LNB driven by the AD3000. 3 other fixed dishes.  Fighting the evil 3 Dragons under the Don Quixote banner,Sir Llew persevered where others failed | The only vpid that seems to be active in my chart is the CH4 test one, 2323. All other active ones are teletext on 9211 and various info pids. The null packet is constant at nearly 30%. They're obviously still testing. I did have all channels clear earlier. Llew | ||
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30-07-2008
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My System: 30W,7W,13E,16E,19E & 28E Dishes everywhere Darkbox 2008HD Sly+ V3 | I believe they are all labeled correctly now and "ready to go". Can someone confirm what they are labeled as. More importantly do they include any of the C4 plus one (+1) channels. Cheers Guys | ||
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30-07-2008
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My System: 3.2M Dish Invacom C120 UNI Quad LNB QDF-031, NF 0.3dB PACE DS430N | I checked last night again. I can confirm in Cyprus, I can get all the regions of C4 on 10714H. There were also 3 other Tps active - one shwing a black screen, one showing coloured bars test screen and the last showing the live BB feed Mike | ||
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