Astra 2D in Torino

vaidya

hi, does anyone know the disc size, in Torino north Italy for Astra 2D

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rolfw

A good quality 90cm dish should do it.

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vaidya

Hi Rolfw, What's a good and what's a bad quality dish?
I thought they where just round and that's it...
Cheers

rolfw

If you are offered a 90cm for €30 it is probably not the best quality and will not perform as well as a better quality dish. Good makes that I have used are Gilbertini, Fracarro, Triax, Visiosat, Hirschmann, plus some others, but unfortunately there is a lot of un-named garbage floating around.

Depending on which receiver you intend to use, it may be worth motorising the dish, then you will have access to a lot more than the British channels.

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vaidya

Thanks Rolfw,
that's what don corleone offered me yesterday.
a 90 dish, brown in colour for 32 euro. So I better start looking for one of the names you said. What about Penta, is it just a matter of style or does it's different shape have a reason.

vaidya

ah I have a twin tuner topfield 4000pvr and on my current 60 dish a monoblock dual feed pointed at astra 19.2

rolfw

The Penta is my favourite at the moment, well built and performs well. It is effectively a 1m dish with parts of the outer rim cut off, I was quite sceptical at first, but having used them for a while, I am very impressed.

Your receiver should be fine for a motor, you could try swinging your dish around to Astra 28.2, as there is a report of someone in Milan receiving the 2D channels with a 65cm, if you can get partial reception with that, you will be guaranteed with a Penta.

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vaidya

thanks Rolfw I'm going to google for a Penta and something motorised.

rolfw

These guys have them in Italy: _http://www.eshopgo.it/Shop/product_info.php?products_id=125&osCsid=04f53d4c20 6bdcd0e65570f40e6

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vaidya

thanks a lot Rolfw. I'm going to do some reading first, because I saw just now on some italian forum some contrary views about the penta.
And through google I found only a 85 dish.

cheers e ciao

rolfw

Yes, it is called the Penta 85, I'd be interested to hear the contrary views, as my meter doesn't mislead, Satelliteman has done a side by side test with a Triax 88cm and the Penta comes out better.

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pietro1

Hi there,

I have recently had installed a Fracarro Penta 85cm with a Ivacom QDH-301 Quad 0.3db Uni LNB in Parma Ovest, setup works fantastic with a Pace 2600CI. This setup will give you 24/7 on Astra2D in Torino


Ciao

vaidya

well, one is saying that the shape gives less quality signal and another says, it gives a better better one.

I think it's better to listen to expert members. Who have experience with the penta.

Before, you told me that for Torino, I 'll need a 90 dish to watch Astra 28.2
Does the same size apply for the penta?

vaidya

wow pietro, amazing as far as parma with a 85 dish. On the forums many complain that lower than milan and turin, you need a "Monster" on your balcony.
Is this because of the penta that you have a signal of 28.2 as far as parma?

rolfw

Here's the dimensions, so whilst it is called an 85, the extreme dimensions are close to 1m.

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vaidya

so you think an 85 will do the job here in Torino
and are there some motorized brands you can recommend?
cheers

rolfw

Don't take my word for it, listen to Pietro1, he is on the ground in Italy and actually has a working dish. For a motor, just look for a Moteck sg2100.

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vaidya

ok cheers Rolfw.
So pietro, securo ?

danit

definitely yes

I know people receiving 2D from Torino with a 70cm (even if not in bad weather conditions), Penta 85 is more than enough

Parma is much more southern and (expecially) eastern than Torino, Astra2D signal gets much weaker, from there a 150cm is required

vaidya

well this makes me a happy man

cheers all

vaidya

Rolfw one more question please.
Do I still need my monoblock dualfeed if I take a motorized Penta or a single lnb will be enough? I'll be switching mostly between 19.2 and 28.2
Or doesn't it make any difference what i'll put on a motorized dish.

Cheers

pietro1

Salve,

Just make a note that you will recieve Astra2D 24/7 in fair weather with my setup, if the heavens open up, just like in the UK you will lose not only 2D but everything.

Try to position the dish as close to the decoder as possible, if you have a long cable run you will lose 3db per every 10mt of cable, this does not sound a lot but its the diff between being able to watch 2D from 7pm in the evening, also make sure that you also use Min CT100/CT125 Cable

The best known high gain decoder is the Pace 2600CI, otherwise the Pace DS430N, this is also very important factor along with the Ivacom QDH-301 Quad 0.3db


Ciao

rolfw

You can't get a monobloc for 28.2 and 19.2, but in any case, you just need a single LNB if you are going to motorise the dish.

If you require instant channel switching, then using a second LNB on an offset bracket on a static dish may be preferable.

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vaidya

well i'm a bit away from the decoder at least 20 mt.