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loss of sky signal in north europe in the day please helpSky digital support forum at Sats UK, Everything involved on the hardware and software side of reception of the channels from 28.2/28.5 East BskyB, special focus on fringe reception of Astra 2D for UK free to air channels | |
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Hi all this is my first post so just wondering if any one can help me with some advice. I live in south west finland i have a sky+ box and a sky subscription in england, my dish is 105cm with universal lnb. my question is why do i lose some channels during the day and then they return in the evening (sky news, sky sports 1 2 + 3 and eurosport uk) is there anything i can do. Please help im missing all the sunday football. Thanks Dan1974 | ||
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| Believe it when I see it Admin.  Real name: Rolf Join Date: 01-05-1999 Location: Southern England
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Blog Entries: 5 My System: Pace Sky HD, DM7000s, CubeRevo 3000HDPVR, Transparent 80cm Dish, Moteck SG2100 DiseqC motor, lots of legacy gear. Meters: Satlook Digital NIT, Televes H45 Digital Spectrum analyser. | Hi Dan1974, welcome to the forum. It may be simply that your dish and LNB skew needs tweaking, or could be that you need a larger or better quality dish to achieve 24hr reception. (not sure how good the Lemon dishes are) | ||
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My System: sky+ box 105cm lemon dish, inverto silver tech lnb | hi rolf thanks for quick reply i thought i might need a bigger dish but not sure why i can receive it in the morning and the evening but not during the day also my wife has an issue with bigger dish | ||
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| Believe it when I see it Admin. Real name: Rolf Join Date: 01-05-1999 Location: Southern England
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Blog Entries: 5 My System: Pace Sky HD, DM7000s, CubeRevo 3000HDPVR, Transparent 80cm Dish, Moteck SG2100 DiseqC motor, lots of legacy gear. Meters: Satlook Digital NIT, Televes H45 Digital Spectrum analyser. | It is a common occurrence in fringe reception areas, loads of threads on this. Can you take some pictures of your dish and LNB and upload them? | ||
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My System: sky+ box 105cm lemon dish, inverto silver tech lnb | yes will do its snowing at the moment. can you recomend a very very good lnb that can be used with a sky+ box with a double connection | ||
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My System: sky+ box 105cm lemon dish, inverto silver tech lnb | I have added a picture to my album, its not very good as i cant get close at the moment as roof has a lot of snow | ||
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My System: Gibertini 1.5m, Jaeger 1224, Vantage x221 TS CI... Fibo 90, Mot-Sat3, Manhattan Plaza XT-M... Satcatcher Excel-TV, Lacuna Mk4 | That's weird. Those should be pretty easy channels to receive as they are on 2A/2B. I thought it might have been the sun but after a check I found that it is about 10 degrees lower than the satellite at this time of year (Helsinki). | ||
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My System: sky+ box 105cm lemon dish, inverto silver tech lnb | Hello Huevos Thanks for your reply, i also think it is weird, the other channels i lose are sky 1 and all the national geographic channels, its very annoying. My sky box is displaying about 70% signal strength but 100% signal quality. SOMEBODY HELP ME | ||
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My System: Gibertini 1.5m, Jaeger 1224, Vantage x221 TS CI... Fibo 90, Mot-Sat3, Manhattan Plaza XT-M... Satcatcher Excel-TV, Lacuna Mk4 | I believe all those channels that you mention are on the _www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/astra2b_south.html and vertical so they might not be as easy for you to receive as me. Did you receive them solidly in the past? If so it might just be down to cleaning your cable joints and checking the alignment (has it been windy lately). By the way signal level/quality is for the default transponder. | ||
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My System: sky+ box 105cm lemon dish, inverto silver tech lnb | I have just got all those channels back at around 7pm it happens every day, i have no idea why. what do you mean it is for the default transponder? | ||
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When you look at the Signal Strength/Quality, the Box looks at that Transponder too. It matters not a jot what Channel the Box was previously set to. | |||
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My System: 75e-75w C & KU, 36v h-h /36v & diseqc actuators / diseqc -USALS motors / Anlg to HD Channel Masters C120s dishes, stb's inc echo3000, lnbs, meters, custom polar mounts & elevation/incline actuator conversions... | What are those other cables on the dish pole for.. are those earth clamps and is the satellite cable earthed and is that a mast head rf amp? | ||
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My System: sky+ box 105cm lemon dish, inverto silver tech lnb | Hello Pedro The other cables are stereo and tv antenna and there are no earth clamps the black cable from the lnb goes direct to sky box no junctions or anything else. The box behind dish is a junction box for the tv antenna | ||
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My System: Mostly gathering dust cos there's no room for dishes here... :( The Sleepy Hollow pollracle has spoken! | Just out of curiosity, you say you're using a sky+ box, but all I can see is a Single output LNB, you aren't using a splitter in the line are you?  | ||
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My System: sky+ box 105cm lemon dish, inverto silver tech lnb | Yes they all just come to my house, the stereo antenna is not being used but the tv one is, just to one tv. I have just ordered a new lnb with twin output so i can start to use sky+ properly, when i got the sky+ box i didn´t know you needed two cables to the box. The lnb i have ordered is an inverto silver tech 0.2db twin output lnb, so i am hoping this may help. Any comments on the new lnb are welcome i got it recommended in an other forum. | ||
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You could consider anchoring the pole above to prevent movement of the aerials or better still fit a solid satellite bracket. | |||
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My System: chaparral montery 40 fully loaded ehcostar ad3600ipvia 3 dishes zone 2 / 1 mt motorized / 2.3 m motorized | the simple answer is the satellite up there is not motionless they are actualy moving in a figure of 8 in a 1 kilomiter qube | ||
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My System: sky+ box 105cm lemon dish, inverto silver tech lnb | what does that mean, although it is like somebody flicks a switch on astra 2 because it goes from no signal to perfect picture in a couple of minutes, today it came on around 12 and all the channels come back at the same time sky1 sky news sky sports 1,2,3 and all national geographics very strange | ||
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