Reception problems in S Spain Ch4 E4 m&m ITV

***devonbrown*** · 09-02-2009

Originally Posted by petert74

On the Costa del sol and near Gibraltar the installers use the same 1.3metre dish and televes single LNB. It is the "standard" in this part of Spain. I believe its also the minimum possible to get BBC etc.

I am in the CDS and I use a 1.3 meter dish(I was told and I don't know make) an Invacom quad LNB and Pace 2600C1 receiver. I get 24/7 all channels except on rainy days. As I have recommended this set up to all my friends most of them have similar and we all get 24/7 reception. The box seems to have a large effect.

sparkyinspain · 09-02-2009

Originally Posted by Huevos

How big is the dish?

It is a 1.4mt dish, the so called "Portuguese" dish that is popular here in Spain, and it's mounted on a post that is in 150mm of concrete so it is never affected by the wind.

***Huevos*** · 09-02-2009

Originally Posted by sparkyinspain

It is a 1.4mt dish, the so called "Portuguese" dish that is popular here in Spain, and it's mounted on a post that is in 150mm of concrete so it is never affected by the wind.

Any BBC2???

***Huevos*** · 09-02-2009

Originally Posted by snap

Some in this area use Gibertini 1.2m, which are higher quality.

Steel or aluminium? How would you rate them for signal strength compared to the Famaval 1.4m. Also how would you rate the Famaval 1.8m compared to Gibertini 1.5m for signal?

**petert74** · 10-02-2009

Originally Posted by devonbrown

I am in the CDS and I use a 1.3 meter dish(I was told and I don't know make) an Invacom quad LNB and Pace 2600C1 receiver. I get 24/7 all channels except on rainy days. As I have recommended this set up to all my friends most of them have similar and we all get 24/7 reception. The box seems to have a large effect.

Devonbrown

Thanks for your response, its great to hear from someone who is actually down here.

Ive tried to get the Pace 2600 but only have two Pace 420's.

I will look into the Invacom quad if I can find it near Gib!!!

As I mentioned earlier about the dish we all have the same ones from tarifa to Granada. the same 1.3 (ok 1.2m) dish

If I cant get an Invacom for less than €100 can someone please reconmend anything else!!!!!

Is someone using something else??? of the CDS!!!

thanks

pt

***Huevos*** · 10-02-2009

Originally Posted by petert74

If I cant get an Invacom for less than €100 can someone please reconmend anything else!!!!!

Is it 40mm or C120? Either way have a look here: _http://www.demon-multimedia.com/productos/productos.asp?ids=9"

**petert74** · 10-02-2009

Originally Posted by Huevos

Is it 40mm or C120? Either way have a look here: _http://www.demon-multimedia.com/productos/productos.asp?ids=9"

Apologies Huevos can you clarify the 40mm or c120 question. Do you mean how its help on to the satelite???

The televes is held in place by the neck.

Without sounding like an idiot, which one from your list are talking about/ would reconmend??

thanks

***snap*** · 13-02-2009

Originally Posted by Huevos

Steel or aluminium? How would you rate them for signal strength compared to the Famaval 1.4m. Also how would you rate the Famaval 1.8m compared to Gibertini 1.5m for signal?

A Gibertini 1.2m has almost the same performance as a Famaval 1.4m prime focus. (actual reflector size of Famaval is 1.33m x 1.33m) Gain figure for the Famaval is very slightly higher, you'd hardly notice.
Famaval also sell a '1.3m' offset dish which is identical to the Gibertini 1.2m in gain.
Famaval are also known as 'Portugese' and are sold by Tecatel under their own brand name. Both Gibertini and Famaval dishes are aluminium.
The Famaval 1.8m prime focus (1.79m x 1.79m) does have a higher gain than a 1.5m Gibertini as it has a much larger surface area. It is also known as a 'Portugese 1.9m' on the costas in Spain.
Famaval prime focus dishes should never be fitted with standard one- piece LNBs, C120 LNBs are essential.
Beware of the way dishes are sold in Spain & Portugal. Dealers and installers always exaggerate the dimensions.

***Huevos*** · 13-02-2009

Originally Posted by snap

The Famaval 1.8m prime focus (1.79m x 1.79m) does have a higher gain than a 1.5m Gibertini as it has a much larger surface area. It is also known as a 'Portugese 1.9m' on the costas in Spain.

I've just bought a Gibertini 1.5m and a QDF-031. Now I just need a feed horn. Starting to get exited.

By the way Gibertini do steel and Aluminium.

***woborny*** · 13-02-2009

Originally Posted by snap

Beware of the way dishes are sold in Spain & Portugal. Dealers and installers always exaggerate the dimensions.

although some of us dont! have a bit of fun sometimes when people ask for a 1.9 and i say to them that there is no such thing as a 1.9 - just a 1.8..

and being really picky the 2.4s are actually 2.3's!!!

andrexsalamanca · 13-02-2009

Yo despues de leeros he pedido un Invacom qdf-o31 quad y un feedhorn invacom.
No sabia si un masterchannel era compatible con el LNB.
Tengo un plato de 135cm creo que focus polar y un Pace 2600c1-
Veo el paquete kidsy entertaimente y sports.

Quiero conseguir veer LOs canales Disney.10862h 22000,5/6
Para mis niños y lo veo pixelado de 1800 a 2200.
Tampoco veo cbbcy bbc2 y bbc3.

1º Si me llega el Invacom y feedhorn se puede sustituir sin mas o hay que hacer una nueva sintonizacion del plato'?
2º Cuanto mejorare si ahiora tengo un invacom twin sin feedhorn'
3º Hasta donde puedo llegar viendo,bbc2,bbc3,cbebies?
4º Tengo que cambiar algo?
Gracias
lotraduzco por google y no se como quedara.

I've asked after reading a Invacom QDF-o31 an feedhorn and Invacom quad.
No one knew if it was compatible with masterchannel LNB.
I have a dish of 135cm I think that focus and a polar-Pace 2600c1
I see the package kidsy entertaimente and sports.

I get channels Disney.10862h veer 22000.5 / 6
For my children and I see 1800 to 2200 pixels.
I do not cbbcy BBC2 and bbc3.

1 If I get the Invacom feedhorn and can replace or is there more to make a new tuning of the dish?
2nd The mejorare if I have an Invacom twin ahiora without feedhorn '
3 As far as I can get watching, BBC2, bbc3, cbebies?
4th I have to change anything?
Thanks
lotraduzco by Google and not be like.

***Huevos*** · 13-02-2009

Hola Andrex,
Es muy importante que la guía de ondas corresponde exactamente con la antena parabólica que tienes. Si no, no va a funccionar bien. ¿Qué antena tienes (la marca)? ¿Es de foco primario o offset? Una foto nos ayudaría.

Its very important that the feedhorn corresponds exactly with the dish. If not it won't work properly. What dish do you have (the make)? Is it prime focus or offset? A photo might help us.

***snap*** · 14-02-2009

I think you are saying you have a ChannelMaster dish. In this case, a ChannelMaster feedhorn is exactly compatible, as it is normally supplied with this dish by the manufacturer. The Invacom Quad QDF-031 is the best possible LNB to buy for your dish.
If you change over from your existing LNB you will not have to alter anything. The fittings supplied with the feedhorn fit the dish exactly in the right point of focus. You just have to rotate the LNB and feedhorn clockwise, looking at the dish, by 24 degrees. There is a scale on the feedhorn in 10 degree segments. Turn it so that the position between the second and third markings on the left are towards the top. This will give the correct turn, or'skew' for your location in Spain.

andrexsalamanca · 14-02-2009

GRacias a todos .
Creo que la parabolica es de foco primario ,, osea no le sale un brazo pra el LNb sino tres que se unen en el centro .
La marca no la pone ,tampoco en la factura.
Solo se que es de 135 cm.
Ahora con EL lNB twin invacom y sin feedhorn veo Disney channels de 19.00 a 20,30.
Gracias

Thank you all.
I think the primary focus is parabolic,, osea no one gets the LNB arm pra but three come together in the center.
The brand makes no, not in the bill.
Only that is 135 cm.
Now with the twin LNB Invacom feedhorn and Disney channels from 19.00 am to 20.30.
Thanks Smilies

***Huevos*** · 15-02-2009

Originally Posted by andrexsalamanca

I think the primary focus is parabolic

La guia de ondas de Channel Master es solo para antenas de tipo offset, no foco primario. Tu antena ya debe tener una guia de ondas que puedes usar con el LNB de Invacom.

The Channel Master feedhorn is only for offset dishes, not prime focus. Your dish must already have a feedhorn that you can use in conjunction with the Invacom LNB.

andrexsalamanca · 20-02-2009

Today has been the enginering to get the 031qdf Lnb Invacom feedhorn and ... me and says my parabolica is not offset and polar focus and therefore not worth it.
Can I reuse the LNB or feedhorn?
What lnb for the dish if it is offset?
Correspond with the Invacom qdh031 '
If I change that by 031Qdf will it work?
Thanks
¿Offset the plates are flat?
¡Ah, I see Disney Channel from 6 to 8:30 p.m.

Eggs and thank everyone. Smilies

andrexsalamanca · 20-02-2009

Hoy ha venido el tecnico a ponerme el Lnb Invacom 031qdf y el feedhorn y ...me dice que mi parabolica es offset y no de foco polar y por tanto no vale.
¿puedo reutilizar el LNb ó el feedhorn ?
¿que lnb correspondería para la parabolica si es de offset?
Correspondería con el Invacom qdh031'
Si cambio el que tengo por el 031Qdf ¿va a funcionar?
Gracias
¿los platos offset son más planos??
Ah¡¡ veo Disney Channel de 6 a 8.30 p.m.

Gracias Huevos y todos. Smilies

**pipino** · 21-02-2009

Originally Posted by andrexsalamanca

Hoy ha venido el tecnico a ponerme el Lnb Invacom 031qdf y el feedhorn y ...me dice que mi parabolica es offset y no de foco polar y por tanto no vale.
¿puedo reutilizar el LNb ó el feedhorn ?
¿que lnb correspondería para la parabolica si es de offset?
Correspondería con el Invacom qdh031'
Si cambio el que tengo por el 031Qdf ¿va a funcionar?
Gracias
¿los platos offset son más planos??
Ah¡¡ veo Disney Channel de 6 a 8.30 p.m.

Gracias Huevos y todos. Smilies

the esiest way to help you is to post some pictures of your system

"la manera mas facile para que podamos ayudarte es poner algunas fotos de tu sistema"

andrexsalamanca · 21-02-2009

The parabolic is inon the roof and I live in 7º floor.
Is dangeosus go up at roof
Andrésd

andrexsalamanca · 03-03-2009

THe enginering arrived and the LNB quad qdf o31 and feedhorn don´t work with my dish,
Because is oofset and no focus primary.
The resend the Lnb and feedhorn is expensive and if somebody want )in Spain) the Lnb invacom quad qdf-031(65 e) and feedhorn Invacom (30 e,)post me a P.

M..
It´s a pyty ,i Was very expectin ,hope...
Disney channel´s can lok but a bit bad (2 hours)
If ui get sell it I colud buy Invacom qdh 031??? Ask i?
How could i sell Lnb and feedhorn?

Thanks

Could swap it for invacom qdh-031 que es para ofset?

andrexsalamanca · 03-03-2009

QDF-031 Universal Quad LNB 0.3dB C1201
£65.98 / $133.94£65.98 / $133.94
Subtotal£65.98 / $133.94
Shipping (UPS)£20.00 / $40.60
VAT£12.90 / $26.19
Total£98.88 / $200.73
I would sell for 65euros more shipping

***Huevos*** · 04-03-2009

Andrex, what feedhorn did you buy? If it is an Andrew's then it is correct for your offset dish. If the satellite guy says different he is a cowboy. By the way that LNB costs less than 60€ to buy in Spain.

**pipino** · 04-03-2009

Originally Posted by Huevos

If the satellite guy says different he is a cowboy.

so many of them down here mate i saw some pieces of Art i had to redo..its so bad i would could them apache ,by the way there is one advertising on Ebay

(260364685164) down here in torrevieja ,he even put his photo next to a famaval dish on the advert ..hilarious stuff

***Huevos*** · 04-03-2009

Originally Posted by pipino

so many of them down here mate i saw some pieces of Art

Got to say the concrete bases really fascinate me. Don't dig a hole. Put red brick surround. Put groundstand inside the brick surround and then pour concrete on top of the groundstand so it is encased. Lovely!

**pipino** · 04-03-2009

soon we should see a tv program "sat installer from hell"

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