sky uk canaries warning!

teide_ian

Hi all
Just to let everyone know digital+ spain along with spanish police have been confiscating cards from bars.
digital + are not happy with the amount of sky cards here so if you have a card please remove from box as i have been told fining heavy.
Also all the re transmissions going down only able to get bbc/itv companies have took off the sports etc.
Watch out other islands well organised by all accounts.

satelliteman

figures

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teide_ian

Starting hitting bars yesterday just letting people know i have taken my card out everyone can do what they want .
All re broadcasters only showing bbc/itv at mo.
Just reporting from Tenerife.

trigger

I just wrote a long reply but lost it before I posted it. Never mind here is an abridged version.

Was going to ask about this here as had heard rumors today.

I said 5 years ago - Digital+ could try and remove Sly from the bars etc and provide a better service to expats - people will pay for a good service.
Digital+ stopped supplying BBC Prime a few years ago and people lost Eastenders and were mortified!!!

Digital+ have recently launched a web site in English. It doesn´t seem to be a translation and shows some commitment to English speaking TV.
w*w.englishtv.plus.es/ofertadigitalplus/index.php


How many bar have been raided - any ideas?

satelliteman

Looks a good site Trigs and plenty choice in the packages.

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Markjose

however would it tempt you off Sky ?

trigger

At the moment I see your point and your right. But If they put pressure on Sly account holders in Spain and supply a better service/programming etc then - maybe!!! There is a huge amount of money to be liberated from expats in Spain for the right service.

Also sly abroad can be very expensive when you have to have a bigger than normal dish, pay an agent to manage your card and have to have an unsubsidized satellite receiver.

Markjose

I don't know however i have lived in spain and the free crap Digital plus broadcast is crap and the pay channels are no better. and very expeif sky had a deal with expensive, however if sky done a deal with Digtal plus then im sure it would help the english down south ?

geoffreys

Two things arising. I assume they are not targetting individuals (this would be impractical anyway), only bars/commercial establisments?
I wonder if they'll have a go at Cyprus next? or France. or wherever?
Geoff
Not so sunny Cyprus today - RAIN!! (Yuck)

jacko

Hi please find attached a copy of the canarian weekly regarding Sky.Sorry have typed it in as clearer.

A LONG-RUNNING battle between TV
broadcasters took anunexpected twist inTenerife this week.

Many bars have been show¬ing Sky Sports programmes for years, but a Spanish net- work is trying to put a stop to that. Canal + this week success fully served court papers on four satellite providers based in the south of Tenerife in an effort to curb subscriptions to the UK broadcaster.

Last Tuesday, four police- men from the UDEV, The Specialist Crime Department of the Madrid Police, seized Sky cards and embargoed satellite-receiving equipment in a well-organized raid.

The businesses were served with court orders, which could lead to substantial fines. Canal + recently secured a court order in Madrid claiming copyright infringement, which is designed to protect their La Liga football rights. At the moment, they are the only broadcaster with exclusive rights to certain La Liga matches, as well as Champions League, FA Cup and international football rights.

It is understood that Canal + subscription sales on La Liga matches have failed to meet their expected targets, despite a massive advertising campaign. It is also under stood the broadcaster believes that bars and businesses have been purchasing the cheaper, but illegal cover¬age on Sky cards. A source who asked not to be named told Canarian Weekly: "The policemen had been in Tenerife for a few days before they made their move."They simply went into one of the shops and asked if they could obtain a Sky card. When they were told they could, they made their move.

"They presented documentation and confiscated a couple of cards. They taped up anything which had a sky logo on it. But they couldn’t take away any receivers because they couldn’t prove the shop owners were doing anything illegal.
Our source also offered a strong theory :”Its really all about Spanish football. Canal + make their money from pay-per view matches, which can cost up to 15 euros. They think the Brits have been buying sky cards because they are cheaper and thus depriving Canal + of revenue. But we all know Spanish football is not why people want Sky! My advice to bars would be not to show the Spanish stuff.”

The raids led to a plethora of rumours ,which have swept the community like wildfire. At the time of writing ,Canarian Weekly had found NO evidence of any bars having there satellite equipment or Sky cards confiscated.There is also no truth to the rumours, that bars have been fined €6000 for showing Sky Sports,and no bars have been threatened with closure,or ordered to shut down.


One resort on the Golf Del Sur did have its community satellite system confiscated but we understand that was because of a Separate matter .The action in Tenerife is not unique. There have been similar raids on the British ex-pat community in mainland Spain.

A year ago, a company in Costa Blanca was forced to close after being hit with a host of court orders, fines and denuncias after it provided Sky Sports to half a million people.At the time a Sky spokesmen said”We authorize the reception of Sky Tv in the UK and Ireland only.Our terms and conditions expressly prohibit reception elsewhere in Europe.

“While we´re not naïve enough to think overseas viewing can be stopped in every case,if we have evidence that a viewing card is being used outside the UK or Ireland,we will switch it OFF.”
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Cupart

Is Digital+ the same as Canal Digital (i.e. a sub or something similar)?

Markjose

as i gather it is the same company but just operate under Digital + in spain however the subs are sure to be different, another point why is digtal + so secure ?

Channel Hopper

Interesting, the broadcasters take people to court under the guise they are not guilty of milking the market beyond what it can produce.

I wonder what they could achieve if they simply improved the content by cutting out their 15 minutes per hour of worthless self-promotion and dropped the local subscription charges slightly.

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"

teide_ian

I know they have done the satellite companies supplying cards they did go into the premises and took all things relating to sky uk but left the digi boxes as they cant be proven. Some bars have been done in the South Playa etc but i think it has been more of a frightener for all the other bars.
They are still supposedly on the island but who knows but they are doing the rounds.
Just to let you other islands know.

pipino

this is why they are doing this---> _http://englishtv.plus.es/ofertadigitalplus/index.php ,,and aperently more is coming

wod

does digital+ show premier league football as thats why the bars will have sky sports for the uk football for expats etc otherwise they wont give a toss about spanish football.

many english people wont get digital+ unless they put more english content on it or do a deal to show bbc, itv etc which i doubt they would bother to do

pipino

Digital+ was up for sell few months ago,but sudenly Sogecable(owner company) stoped that plan ,and started a new strategy to hit the market by adding national tv on their list(very important for remote areas),also they are preparing the entry of various HD channels,apart from the canaries i also heard they are hiting cardsharing networks ,few weeks ago they picked one near valencia..like we say now with the economic recession every penny counts...regards

woborny

tve currently have the rights to show the FAPL in spain.
tve is available on terrestrial and digital terrestrial for free.
however, tve is only available with a D+ subscription package on satellite...or will be until spain gets its version of "freesat", supposably due this year, but will depend if the "spat" between astra, hispsat and the gvmt continues.

as the international rights for FAPL are being autioned soon, maybe d+ want them back to tempt english people back to d+...which may happen if they can get access to the english commentary...