No Channel 4 in Fuerteventura on 12480V

**Baxter Boy** · 25-08-2009

We have just lost Channel 4 and 4+1 in Fuerteventura, Canary Islands on 12480V. The Digibox is displaying the message “No satellite signal is being received”. It’s not just us, several other people in Fuerteventura are reporting the same problem. Is this happening anywhere else?

43JTA · 25-08-2009

same in Lanzarote BB looks like it's gone.

***woborny*** · 25-08-2009

i have just scanned 12480v and all is still there as it was yesterday...
and as far as i can tell no reception issues where I am....on the mainland spain

could be a more local issue - like somone transmitting a more powerful signal on a similar frequency, or they have "tweaked" the satellite a bit...and corrected its orbit - do they do this?

***trigger*** · 25-08-2009

Not gone to 2D Horizontal or S1 beam on Eurobird as have checked them and nothing

**satelliteman** · 25-08-2009

Ch4/TTon4 appears ok whilst scanning 12.480v on both a digibox and generic receiver UK.

Any other channels missing?

**Baxter Boy** · 25-08-2009

Originally Posted by satelliteman

Ch4/TTon4 appears ok whilst scanning 12.480v on both a digibox and generic receiver UK.

Any other channels missing?

All the ones on 12.480v

***Tivù*** · 25-08-2009

Sounds like someone in the Canaries is using a mammoth DECT phone

**satelliteman** · 25-08-2009

Originally Posted by Baxter Boy

All the ones on 12.480v

Anything else on 2A North Vertical??

eg. Tp12
11.934 Vert, 27.5, 2/3

Corralejo · 25-08-2009

Sat man when putting in those digits all you get is 3 channels

ALL

sky cust ch which is the channel about changing the card

**satelliteman** · 25-08-2009

Ok, need to try a transponder on 2B vertical now.

Can you still get 12.402v ok (ITV) and 12.090V, 27.5, 2/3

**Baxter Boy** · 25-08-2009

Originally Posted by satelliteman

Anything else on 2A North Vertical??

eg. Tp12
11.934 Vert, 27.5, 2/3

11.934 V and 11.778 V are ok. 12.480 V says "No Signal Found".

We can receive the ITV regions.

Corralejo · 25-08-2009

Still get 12.402v ok (ITV)

Nothing on 12.090V, 27.5, 2/3

itjlbbg · 25-08-2009

What is Astra up to?

**satelliteman** · 25-08-2009

Ok, been liaising with member Trigger and others.

Figures as Canaries I think have problems with the North beam Vertical Tp's - Astra 2B North and 12.090v is on that freq for example.

It's possible that the programming on 12.480v has been moved over to this beam .....although 12.422v is on 2B North, a bit puzzling.

**Analoguesat** · 25-08-2009

Originally Posted by itjlbbg

What is Astra up to?

Probably nothing - theres nowt wrong with the signal here in the UK.

Its possible theres some local interference.

phonedoctorlanz · 25-08-2009

no all 12480 gone in lanza 12402 still ok for itv as is 12422 h for ch5.

***trigger*** · 25-08-2009

12480 V is still transmitting the Irish Channel four, E4 etc - This is why Analoguesat and satelliteman can confirm as ok.

The problem is that it is probably transmitting on a different satellite and therefore a different beam - EG moved from 2B North beam to Eurobird S1 or similar.

Just haven't nailed it down yet.

**Analoguesat** · 25-08-2009

Originally Posted by phonedoctorlanz

no all 12480 gone in lanza 12402 still ok for itv as is 12422 h for ch5.

That doesnt rule out local interference - its quite possible for it to knock out just one frequency.....

***woborny*** · 25-08-2009

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

That doesnt rule out local interference - its quite possible for it to knock out just one frequency.....

heard another example of this happenig down torrevieja way....a 2.4m dish got all but the main BBC and iTV channels....but where there when the installer stood just in front and at the side of the dish!!!!
a few hours of headscratching and phonecalls and the problem was found....a rebroadcater transmitter located on the hill on that side of the dish... a hastily erected wooden fence blocked / reduced the signals from the trasnmitter to the dish and BBC and ITVs all popped in!

***trigger*** · 25-08-2009

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

That doesnt rule out local interference - its quite possible for it to knock out just one frequency.....

This is also possible - Especially with the Orbit and Showtime merger there are quite a few changes happening with 26 East.

**satelliteman** · 25-08-2009

Yep either that or one possible solution is they have switched over 12.480v to 2B North (not received in Canaries) and moved 12.402 (as received) over to 2A North.

**satelliteman** · 25-08-2009

Time to get the spectrum analyser out Trigger

**denis1501** · 25-08-2009

I'm inclined to believe that they've moved from 2A north beam, I'm now receiving Channel 4, 4+1, etc. with full signal quality here in Central Italy which is almost unheard of for my 1.25m dish as 2A north is the weakest 'non 2D' beam here. Normally only have 35-40 % quality on this transponder at the strongest time of day.

**Analoguesat** · 25-08-2009

Interesting - we are now getting loss of signal reports from Malta.

Im starting to think the beam change theory has something to it.

**nanochickin** · 26-08-2009

It may be possible they are doing something similar to what they did on fox-turk 36e when the English premier footy was on, only on a more permanent basis

Remember when they kept lowering the uplink power just before the game so it went black in the UK but it was still ok in Turkey

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