Smart Titanium TSX LNB

**enoc** · 19-02-2005

Any body knows something about this lnb?

Smart Titanium TSX

http://www.digitalantennen.de/xtcomm...roducts_id=341

any info will be apreciated.

Thanks in advanced.

**rolfw** · 19-02-2005

Not one I've heard of, but bear in mind that it is a quattro and will require a multiswitch for connecting to your digibox or Sky+.

***Zorba*** · 19-02-2005

Is there a single version?(I havent gone to the website)

**enoc** · 20-02-2005

Originally Posted by zorba

Is there a single version?(I havent gone to the website)

Yes, they have all the model (single, twin, quad & quatro) but no any C120

single

http://www.digitalantennen.de/xtcomm...roducts_id=339

twin

http://www.digitalantennen.de/xtcomm...roducts_id=340

quattro
http://www.digitalantennen.de/xtcomm...roducts_id=341

quad
http://www.digitalantennen.de/xtcomm...roducts_id=341

can be real the 0.2???

enoc

**rolfw** · 20-02-2005

I read an article a while ago which explained why it was impossible to achieve an overall noise figure of less than 0.3db, due to the constraints of the available components, so I guess it depends on whether they describe it as typical or lowest.

***Zorba*** · 21-02-2005

Or maybe it was tested on a certain frequency at a certain temperature at a certain time of day in a vacum up on the space station with the lights switched off............

pnegre · 20-03-2005

I bought 2 twins. not tested it personally, but a friend had tried the other unit said it gave a lower signal quality than his previous Golden Interstar 0.3 . My asumption is that its comparable to a Invacon 0.3 or so

**enoc** · 24-03-2005

Originally Posted by pnegre

I bought 2 twins. not tested it personally, but a friend had tried the other unit said it gave a lower signal quality than his previous Golden Interstar 0.3 . My asumption is that its comparable to a Invacon 0.3 or so

in which place and whit which satellite he was testing?? fringe area?

thanks

tomo2106 · 01-09-2005

Great LNB but only single. It give me 10-15% better signal then any other.

***bignick*** · 01-09-2005

I was discussing this LNB with some guys who work for futuresat in limassol, as I was looking at buying one off Ebay

to see how it performed.

They have already tried one. I think it was a single LNB.

They didn't have many nice things to say about it despite trying on several dishs

I don't think I'll bother unless I hear something VERY positive about them.

***snap*** · 01-09-2005

I wrote to the technical director of a rival company about this and other things to do with LNBs and his reply was ( of the Smart Titanium 0.2):
'this LNB is not a 0.2dB LNB – In fact it is not possible – It is beyond the realms of physics.'
Be warned- he knows what he is talking about.

***steffan_st*** · 01-09-2005

Originally Posted by tomo2106

Great LNB but only single. It give me 10-15% better signal then any other.

Which "any other(s)" might that be Tomo?!?

Likvid · 01-09-2005

I sell the Smart Titanium LNBs.

They are available as Single, Twin or Quattro.

According to a recent test by a German magazine this is the best LNB on the market right now.

***dave branson*** · 02-09-2005

I have modified a Smart to fit a 120 flanged IRTE feedhorn,and intend to try it on my
1.8 IRTE pf dish when i have time.

***steffan_st*** · 02-09-2005

Originally Posted by dave branson

I have modified a Smart to fit a 120 flanged IRTE feedhorn,and intend to try it on my
1.8 IRTE pf dish when i have time.

Sounds like a good idea Branson,don't forget to post the result!

Likvid · 02-09-2005

Some pictures as well of the modification you've done.

***dave branson*** · 02-09-2005

Originally Posted by steffan_st

Sounds like a good idea Branson,don't forget to post the result!

The name is Dave,will try to set it up this weekend,of course i will post the results,at the moment i am using an Invacom quad lnb,with an Invacom feedhorn.

***dave branson*** · 02-09-2005

Originally Posted by Likvid

Some pictures as well of the modification you've done.

Hi Likvid,i will post some pictures next week.

***steffan_st*** · 02-09-2005

Originally Posted by dave branson

The name is Dave,will try to set it up this weekend,of course i will post the results,at the moment i am using an Invacom quad lnb,with an Invacom feedhorn.

The comparsion to Invacom will be interesting,I'm going to try the same thing in a couple of weeks with an Interstar GI-201 on a Fibo 90cm.

Will be interesting to compare with the Invacom c120 single and the MTI c120 single that I have used on that dish before!

Likvid · 03-09-2005

I can tell that Invacom Twin C120 is much better than the Invacom Single.

The MTI AP8-TW is only better than the Invacom on low freq vertical channels.

In other frequencies the MTI suffers really bad.

I have also tried them against the SMW X-Line with custom optional LO +/- 1MHz and the SMW is much better than both, i think i posted the results a few months back.

***snap*** · 03-09-2005

Originally Posted by Likvid

I can tell that Invacom Twin C120 is much better than the Invacom Single.

The MTI AP8-TW is only better than the Invacom on low freq vertical channels.

In other frequencies the MTI suffers really bad.

I have also tried them against the SMW X-Line with custom optional LO +/- 1MHz and the SMW is much better than both, i think i posted the results a few months back.

Could you re- post these results or give us a link to where the posting was?
Is this SMW expensive?

**Lancelot** · 03-09-2005

http://www.satellites.co.uk/php-bin/...&highlight=smw

Think this is what he meant.

L.

Likvid · 03-09-2005

Originally Posted by snap

Could you re- post these results or give us a link to where the posting was?
Is this SMW expensive?

Yes, but the SMW is not a C120 LNB and they don't make anyone either so either you need a polarizer of some sort or buy two SMW and a OMT like i have installed on my dish.

They are about three times the price of the Invacom Twin, about 150 euro or something last time i checked.

From a older thread i posted in:

OK, i have conducted the SMW tests now and i can say SMW performs about 3-4% better in C/N compared to MTI, here is Invacom the worst LNB, lagging almost 6-7% behind SMW on the vertical transponders.

I have mounted the SMW LNB directly to the feedhorn with a quarterwave transformer between the feed and LNB to get better VSWR overall.

All i can say that the signal on 10.906V is pending between 37-41%, i have a picture but it is little pixelized.

The threshold of the receiver is just around 40% so i would need about 4% more signal and it would be perfect, however i can't get more signal out of this antenna, it's maximized.

***dave branson*** · 06-09-2005

Originally Posted by steffan_st

Sounds like a good idea Branson,don't forget to post the result!

I have installed the Smart titanium 0.2 with IRTE feedhorn,on a 1.8 pf dish.
results are ok,but nothing special,its good on vertical transponders,but not on the horizontal transponders.
It pulls in the BBC throughout the day time,but drops off completely at about
19-00 hrs.
With an Invacom quad and Invacom adjustable feed horn,i can receive BBC till 21-00 hrs before it breaks up.
Conclusion,i think the Invacom has much better performance on the Horizontal transponders.
I have tried to post some photos,but i am having some problems,seems that the file is too large,but i will keep trying.

***steffan_st*** · 06-09-2005

Originally Posted by dave branson

I have installed the Smart titanium 0.2 with IRTE feedhorn,on a 1.8 pf dish.
results are ok,but nothing special,its good on vertical transponders,but not on the horizontal transponders.
It pulls in the BBC throughout the day time,but drops off completely at about
19-00 hrs.
With an Invacom quad and Invacom adjustable feed horn,i can receive BBC till 21-00 hrs before it breaks up.
Conclusion,i think the Invacom has much better performance on the Horizontal transponders.
I have tried to post some photos,but i am having some problems,seems that the file is too large,but i will keep trying.

I'm a little surprised by your results I must say,2 hours more of watching with the Invacom is rather much! What brand is your dish by the way?

Don't you think it would be worth a try to fit the Titanium to the Invacom feedhorn?

I've had some problems uploading pics to this forum as well but if you take the pics in 640*480 resolution it shouldn't be a problem!

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