Default Transponder & Sky Card activation overseas

**powel000** · 03-04-2005

Can anyone advise please of what channels are usually used to activate the Sky Card. So when Sky sends signal to activate card, what channels are usually need to have the reciever tuned to. Can you be as specific as possible. Also, as for the new pace software the 430 what channels are used to updsate the reciever.
Thank u

**rolfw** · 03-04-2005

I believe that everything comes down on the default transponder 11778 V, if you can receive this then you are fine. The card activation seems to come down whichever channel you are watching, the box just needs to be on and out of standby.

***iceman*** · 03-04-2005

Originally Posted by powel000

Can anyone advise please of what channels are usually used to activate the Sky Card. So when Sky sends signal to activate card, what channels are usually need to have the reciever tuned to. Can you be as specific as possible. Also, as for the new pace software the 430 what channels are used to updsate the reciever.

Just make sure you can receive a default transponder...It doesnt necessarily have to be 11778V...You could use 12207V which is recieved easily from all over europe.
Skybox can receive OTA updates as long as it can recieve a default transponder signal.
If you wish to force a software download..MAKE SURE you can pick up 11778V

iceman

**powel000** · 04-04-2005

Assuming you cant reciever the above two beams 11778V or 12207V. Does that mean no activation, or the reciever can be tuned to any channel. Thanks for the help

***iceman*** · 04-04-2005

Originally Posted by powel000

Assuming you cant reciever the above two beams 11778V or 12207V. Does that mean no activation, or the reciever can be tuned to any channel. Thanks for the help

If you cannot even tune to 12207V then your box wont be able to download the channel listings in order to be able to boot up.

You must be able to tune into a default transponder for the box to bootup.

iceman

**billnot** · 05-04-2005

12441V is another possibility for the default transponder, and it's the one we use on the Costa Blanca.

I completely agree with the advice about forced downloads. These always use 11778V as far as I can tell, and people have ruined otherwise good boxes when forcing a download with 11778V non-receivable.

**paulkelly** · 21-05-2005

i live in the canary isles and the only freq we can use out here 12207v
all down loads will happen on this freq

if using card registered in uk just ring and reactivate
if you need a card ...order a freeview card to uk addy then activate when you got the card from your mates house back in uk ...they will take any uk bank account for d.d

**makum101** · 11-08-2005

Originally Posted by iceman

If you wish to force a software download..MAKE SURE you can pick up 11778V

Ah, I didn't know this.

So if I wanted to do a FULL SYSTEM RESET (Press SERVICES then 4 - 0 - 1 - SELECT and choose FULL SYSTEM RESET), would I need to have a signal from 11778V or would one of the other default transponders do?

I'm in Tenerife with a 90cm dish and don't get the default of 11778

I ask this as I may need to do a full system reset in the future!

(I could take my box to a shop and connect it to their 3M dish to do this I suppose.)

Id be very grateful if someone could answer this question for me.

ta
Makum

***iceman*** · 11-08-2005

FULL SYSTEM RESET is one thing forcing software download is another...
Do not attempt to force downlaod software if you dont know the difference..
Get a professional or someone with experience and a good signal on 11778V to force downlaod software for you...

**makum101** · 11-08-2005

so Im safe to do a full system reset without a signal to 11778v then?

***iceman*** · 11-08-2005

Originally Posted by makum101

so Im safe to do a full system reset without a signal to 11778v then?

Yes,you are safe.

**makum101** · 11-08-2005

Many thnaks for the info.

So whats the difference between the two?

I did a full system reset back in the Uk and it put up a bar like it was formatting. (I think it mentioned Housekeeping) which one did I do?

**jacko** · 11-08-2005

hi,
i¨m in tenerife,
set up my mates sky box on tuesday night.
use default transponder 11740.
left it on sky news,and his card got
activated on wednesday afternoon.

tintoria1 · 30-08-2005

Very interesting post. I had read on an other forum that default transponder 11778 was mandatory to receive activation but I see here people proving otherwise.

I'm trying to activate a freesat card which also includes the NASN package but have failed over the past few days even though several calls have been made to both sky and NASN. They both say that the card should be active by now because several signals have been sent. I have communicated the information about the box for the "marriage".

I cannot receive 11778 and in order to boot the decoder I chose 12207 as default transponder, and left the box on on sky news. I'm told that when the activation is ok then also channels 103/104/105 appears in the EPG where they are now missing. Unfortunately, the activation has failed so far.

Given my configuration would you say there may be anything else wrong ?
Thank you.

***iceman*** · 31-08-2005

Originally Posted by tintoria1

I'm trying to activate a freesat card which also includes the NASN package but have failed over the past few days even though several calls have been made to both sky and NASN. They both say that the card should be active by now because several signals have been sent.

Was your card issued for the box you are trying to activate it in?If not,you are wasting your time..once activated freesat cards work in any box but they can only be activated in the box they were issued to by SKY.

tintoria1 · 31-08-2005

Originally Posted by iceman

Was your card issued for the box you are trying to activate it in?If not,you are wasting your time..once activated freesat cards work in any box but they can only be activated in the box they were issued to by SKY.

The card was issued even before I had the box....so certainly not. But when called for the activation and given both the box and card numbers, why sky did not mention this ? Anyways, if this is the prolem, then I can return the card to the dealers I bought it from and have it reissued...
By the way, is it ok to have freesat and NASN on the same card ? Mine is one of those with the yellow house. Thank you.

**** EDIT *****
I put my mobile in private and I called freesat pretending I wanted to buy the card but had not received my box yet. They said no problem and that I could get the card now, and then, after receiving the box, call sky for activation.... so I don't think the card is actually issued for a specific box. Any thoughts ?
**** END EDIT *****

tintoria1 · 02-09-2005

Originally Posted by jacko

hi,
i¨m in tenerife,
set up my mates sky box on tuesday night.
use default transponder 11740.
left it on sky news,and his card got
activated on wednesday afternoon.

Jacko, would you please confirm that in the situation you described above, you could not receive at all 11778 and that the card was not indeed already active (like you did not have 103/104/105 in the epg)? Did you also receive the epg update which shows the initially missing channels?

Thank you.

**jacko** · 03-09-2005

hello tintoria 1,
i have to reset my old mans sky box about once a fortnight,due
to power cuts/interuptions on his complex .everytime the power comes back on
he has 11778 showing as his default transponder and cannot pick up any signal.
after i enter 11740,then go down to manual tuning ,the signal and all the channels
come back.my mates card was new and was not activated when he first received
it.i haven¨t seen my mate recently but i presume that everything is now ok with his
card or he would have contacted me.
also try default transponder 12051 ,this one also worked but i haven¨t tried it
for a while. good luck.

bk_man · 27-02-2006

If your a trader you can also use a dialer to activate cards via the phone line, _http://www.smart2check.com/digidialler.htm they'll give traders 50% off the list price...

But if your doing it manually calling sky is relatively safe from overseas using a mobile and with-holding your ID..

I use this method to get box office movies...

bk_man · 27-02-2006

The cards are paired with a specifc sky digibox, until they are activated they are not paired to any box - so this leaves you free to get the box before the card or vice versa.. Once activated the cards can only be used in that digibox - trying to use them in other digiboxes lead to some issues..

**rolfw** · 16-03-2006

It's pretty common knowledge on the forum how to activate a Sky digital card and is mention in hundreds of posts here, simply requires access to the installer menu and a connection to a phone line if in the UK, or one of the overseas digidialers which are also mentioned in several posts if you are overseas.

Czechrite · 24-06-2006

Originally Posted by iceman

..once activated freesat cards work in any box but they can only be activated in the box they were issued to by SKY.

So, if I buy a free SKY card from Ebay

, it should work in my IllusionSat M3 receiver? (Or by "any box" you mean any skysat box)?

Thx

***wod*** · 24-06-2006

it will only work in sky digiboxes

you can use it in any reciever via the dragon cam method and remember to put it back into a sky reciever to keep getting the update signals

djsmitch · 01-05-2007

You can activate the card yourself, without 'phoning Sky, by using the engineer's menu. Your box must be connected to a telephone line.

On the remote press "Services" > 4 > 0 > 1 > "Select" This brings up a new menu. Press "New Installation" and follow the instructions. Your card will be activated in a few minutes.

is this the Sky Engineers activate cards manual or is there more then that in it

***BLUEPLATINUM*** · 23-01-2008

Originally Posted by paulkelly

i live in the canary isles and the only freq we can use out here 12207v

We use 11739V here in Gran Canaria.

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