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11-10-2005
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Hi I am in Southern Spain nr Malaga, I have a 1.3m dish. with a Quad LNB I have a Grundig , Panasoinc and Amstrad receivers. I have three cards two ex subscription and one freeview. The transponder setting is 10817. V All works OK but every few days I loose get the message "No Satelite Signal is being received". When I check the transponder settings they have changed to 11778. I change it back and it works ok for a few days then i loose it again. Any ideas how I can stop this can i lock the transpoder settings? Am i using the best settings? | ||
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My System: 1200cc with 100,000,000,000 neurons and 100,000,000,000,000 connections | If your box can get the default transponder (the 11778 one) then the box will change back to it eventually. Do you actually receive any more channels or EPG listings when you have it set to 10817. V? Do all the boxes not receive the default 11778 transponder? If so you should check your dish and LNB, a 1.3m dish in the Malaga area should receive it  | ||
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My System: Solid 2.4M C120 Invacom0.03db twin, ADF120 Feedhorn, Pace2600 & Pace DS430N. SKY package exc Sports | I get the same problem, but I believe it to be because the default the box is set to look for in the UK is 11778, which is ok as you aint supposed to watch the sky etc outside of the UK (Briitish Isles), so if you set your default to say 12129, and for whaterver reason you lose that signal, the box will revert and look for the default preset, IE back to 11778 ,,,,I dont know if the box settings can be altered to stop it happening,,, | ||
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11-10-2005
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Blog Entries: 5 My System: Pace Sky HD, DM7000s, CubeRevo 3000HDPVR, Transparent 80cm Dish, Moteck SG2100 DiseqC motor, lots of legacy gear. Meters: Satlook Digital NIT, Televes H45 Digital Spectrum analyser. | They will often reset to the default transponder after a power interuption, I think it was one of the members here who couldn't understand why he lost the signal every wednesday, he subsequently linked it to his wife pulling out the plug so that she could use the vacuum cleaner. It may be that you can see enough signal from 11778 to force the change. | ||
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http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html The software ALWAYS searches for 11778 V at EVERY bootup.. Even if the default transponder is altered, if it detects 11778V after a bootup it will automatically revert to that...and there is nothing that can be done about this.. | |||
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14-10-2005
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 Actually my question was put to Iceman,I just wanted to know if anybody knew how to do it,but its not a secret. If you go into the New installation(services 4,0,1 select, 6) and proceed on to where it says "now scanning please wait",disconnect your satellite cable from the digibox.Then you will get the message NO DEFAULT TRANSPONDER FOUND,PRESS SELECT TO MODIFY SETTINGS.Then type in your chosen frequency etc,then press select and you will be shown the signal level screen.Now connect the sat cable and wait for the grey bars,then press select to continue.Then you will get CHANNEL LINE UP COMPLETE. Now every time you go to default transponder it will be the one you chose,and most digiboxes will remember this after power is disconnected,some even after weeks of no power. Mines a Keo. | |||
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20-10-2005
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My System: 130cm dish 80cm motorised dish Silvercrest SL65 FTA Internet cafe broadband Lots of FTA channels on most satellites aimed at europe and middle east.  | I have never had a problem with 11778v, but people who i know use the 12051v (Is that right?) which is the one which carries CNN. When i use the 80cm dish for sky, i set it to that frequency to bring up the EPG. | ||
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The alternative transponders are used in cases where 11778V is not received but the receiver defaults back to 11778V after powered off or if it detects 11778... Thx for the tip Zorba...Saved me a lot of headache and time.. | |||
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22-10-2005
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My System: Solid 2.4M C120 Invacom0.03db twin, ADF120 Feedhorn, Pace2600 & Pace DS430N. SKY package exc Sports | [Ha,,, Now I am and Expert in KEO,, if you look up the big hill Troodos,, I helped installed those dishes, many years ago, but spent a lot of time in Limassol, investigating the properties of KEO,, Thanks for the info on Default transponder, let youknow how I get on,, as power cuts here are a must \Thanks | ||
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Then again the pace 430's are a bit strange,they seem to have a habit of losing channels stored in "other channels" sometimes. | |||
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10-02-2008
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My System: 3.6M prime focus DH dish, Invacom Quad LNB, HD Digibox: 1.2M ChannelMaster offset with Invacom LNB and Echostar AD3000 | This does not work for my HD box. The 11778V transponder comes and goes during the day (its OK in the morning but vanishes mid afternoon). The HD box transfers itself back to the 11788V default transponder setting every morning which is a real pain. Has anyone found a solution to this ? | ||
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My System: Sky Plus V3 TDS 470n, Pace 2600CI, Thomson Sky HD, Technomate 1000D, Prodelin 1.8m dish + Invacom Quad C120, CM feed, Lacuna/Wolsey V3 meter | There is no permanent solution apart from improving the default transponder reception. In countries where there are a lot of power cuts all receivers will revert to 11778 after a period of time. There is another problem with choosing an alternative frequency, the EPG may only show 12 or 24 hours ahead. There is one workround though, connect the digibox to a UPS backup power supply, then set your chosen default transponder. | ||
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My System: ADSL 1 Meg., SKY HD (Thomson DSI8215WD), Sky+ 160, TDT (Spanish freeview) | This problem is not routinely caused by power problems. If you change the default transponder in an area where it is never possible to receive the "normal" default transponder the box should remember it (except during long power outage). However, if the "normal" default transponder can be received some of the time, then as soon as it comes online the box will change it's settings back to that TP. When you lose the signal on that TP the box will stop working until you manually change it back to your preferred alternative. | ||
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My System: 3.6M prime focus DH dish, Invacom Quad LNB, HD Digibox: 1.2M ChannelMaster offset with Invacom LNB and Echostar AD3000 | I think that the only solution for my installation will be to attenuate the 2A North signal (by offsetting the dish a tiny bit more towards 28.5E) so that I never get the 11.778V transponder. Fortunately the only other useful 2A North beam transponder is Channel 4+1 which can be resolved at lower signal strengths than 11.778V. | ||
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My System: 1.4 dish invacom lnb pace ds440n digibox | Cut and pasted this- Default Transponder Some useful features can be found in Installer setup, to exit press Backup on your Remote. You will see the Default Transponder settings here, these can be changed, though will revert to the original settings once you have left the Installer setup. To keep any changes, you will have to unplug your receiver without leaving the Installer setup. From this site, full of useful information _http://www.astra2d.com/services.htm Hope this helps | ||
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