How can I recieve Astra 2D On an Axil AD-600

willcatchfish

I am in France and have bought an Axil AD-600 kit. Generally it works fine, OK reception for Eurobird1 Hotbird. The main Satalite I want is Astra 2D so I can watch BBC ITV. This is not on the satalite list. Can it be added? Can the box be flashed/updated to recieve Astra 2D?

Hope someone can help

Analoguesat

You dont need to flash it - you just need to update the relevant tp's. its also possible your dish is on the small side for Astra 2D depending just where in France you are.

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willcatchfish

Thank you. I'm a novice at this I have had the Reciever for two days. Looking at the book it is not very clear. (80cm dish Central France)
Any additional detailed guidance would be appreciated.

Many Thanks

rolfw

An 80cm in central France should be fine, if you are receiving channels from the colocated Eurobird 1, then it is probably a case of fine tuning and possible LNB skew adjustment, plus as Analoguesat says, add the relevant transponders. http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html

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willcatchfish

Hmm still no joy. The box has 39 preset TP's and it has edit mode. I tried editing and searching TP. It still refers to the Sat when searching, and Astra 2D is not there. It is the first time I've ever done this. Could someone give me a detailed outline with the assumtion I know nothing.

Thank you for your patience

rolfw

does it not have a satellite listing for Astra 2, most of them do.

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willcatchfish

Astra 1, 2a and 3a

rolfw

Well just use the add transponder and add one from 2D onto 2A.

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Analoguesat

Go through the transponders and manually add anything missing.

You should be able to watch anything in pale blue on this table:

http://www.flysat.com/ebird1-astra28.php

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willcatchfish

Still no luck. I'm in the footprint for an 80cm dish. I have a good signal and quality for Hotbird. I get no sigal for any Astra. They're all on the same bearing I have tried moving the dish to try and get a signal on any astra. I shouldn't have to if I have a good signal on Hotbird?

Must...get.....some...english....TV....

Raasay

I'm guessing that the problem might be related to your LNBs. How many have you got? If you haven't either got two separate or a monobloc, you will only be able to receive either hotbird or astra, but not at the same time, and not without moving the dish to point to the other satellite.

What's happening at the moment I think is that you have the dish pointed at hotbird, and coincidentally some of the transponders in your astra list are also hotbird transponders, so you pick up a picture. But it won't be the right channel! To test, select a working astra channel, get the transponder information, and go to lyngsat or www.kingofsat.net to see which channel you should have on that transponder if you are pointing at astra, and which channel for the same transponder on hotbird.

I lived in just outside Paris and had no trouble at all with an 80cm and 2d.

If I am correct, and you only want hotbird for TPS and astra for BBC/ITV, The cheapest/easiest solution is a monobloc LNB for astra/hotbird 80cm dish. Set the first LNB to hotbird, and the second will automatically point to astra. If you see this as becoming a hobby, a better solution might be a motor.

wod

that wouldn't work as you would end up with 13east and 19east as monoblock lnb only have a 6 degree spacing because bbc/itv are on astra 2 28east

what channels do you recieve as you may be on the wrong satellite

willcatchfish

Just one LNB, and I could happily live with only viewing channels from 2D, BBC ITV etc.
I think I get that:
I add all the TP's of the 2D Flysat page
e.g ITV: Freq 10714 H and SR 22000
BBC: Freq 10773 H ..........22000
Point at the same place as Hotbird and search for channels (colocated).
I'm due south of Paris, not too far from Monlucon and Clermont Ferrand.

Cheers

willcatchfish

I shall point it up to hotbird and check the channels. I think I may be getting my head round this a bit.

Wish I'd bought a better system though.

willcatchfish

I have a good signal from Hotbird and looking at the TP's and channels it is in fact hotbird.

Analoguesat

In that case you need to slew the dish eastwards a 3-4 of inches, and drop the lnb half an inch or so.

Mark the current dish location with pencil, tippex or something similar so if you get hopelessly lost you have a reference point to starta again from.

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willcatchfish

I am a very happy chap indeed. I have spent the last ten mins watching BBC1 tennis, very nice. Fit birds, english comentation. I must thank you guys for your patience and help. I now feel I understand this all alot better.

I shall enjoy France all the more for not having to watch only their pretty crap TV of an evening.

Thank you all and I may buy a motorised dish etc one day.

Analoguesat

Ah good - a satisfied customer

Well done - as in many cases all you needed was a bit of advice and some suggestions as to what to do next.

Whast confuses many people when they are looking for a particular service is the same frequencies are reused multiple times around the orbital arc, so you can easily think you are on the right satellite, but be looking at one further round the arc...

(It catches the pros out occasionally too!)

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LaGentille

Hello Willcatchfish,

I'm in the same area of France as you and am trying to figure out how to get Astra 2D on my Axil AD-600. Can you explain to me exactly what you had to do? Thanks in advance for any help.

rolfw

What dish do you have and which satellite is it pointing at?

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LaGentille

Axil AD-600, pointed at Eurobird1?

rolfw

OK, so which channels are you missing?

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LaGentille

I would like to receive Channel 4......I tried every idea that I had. I'm not really clear on how to add a transponder. I did a "search for channels", chose Eurobird1, then changed the name to Astra 2D in the search utility, put in the right frequency for Channel 4 on Astra 2D, but I still only get Channel 4 selections (a lot of them!) that are encoded (not the right frequency). Does that give you enough info? Thanks in advance !!

developers

Channel 4 is available on Freesat in the clear but the channel name scans as something like 8950, I can't quite remember as I renamed mine, but the frquency to scan is 10728 V 22000 5/6

LaGentille

Thank you so much. I will try that and let you know what I find !!