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Comparing Channel Master 2.4, prodelin 2.4 & Patriot 2.4Sky digital support forum at Sats UK, Everything involved on the hardware and software side of reception of the channels from 28.2/28.5 East BskyB, special focus on fringe reception of Astra 2D for UK free to air channels | |
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21-12-2003
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Which is the best dish among Channel Master 2.4, Prodelin 2.4 & Patriot 2.4? A lot of people told me Channel Master is the best and actually It can be comparized with most of the 3 mt dish around, expecially the ones that are set in Cyprus. I would appreciate if anyone could help me to confirm all this. Of course a Channel Master 2.4 mt dish will cost around € 3000 but it would be interesting to know if it is as good as a 3 mt dish. Thank you to everybody who will help me Ciao Tony | ||
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| Channel Master the company have had serious trouble this year. There is no certainty the parts will be available at the moment. Patriot does have dealers in Europe and seems to be doing quite well for a ten year old business. It is however a 2 piece Fibreglass dish, and is easy to assemble. E3000 is a lot of money though when you consider a 3 piece Prodelin 1253 (also fibreglass) has the same performance but costs under E1000 in most areas, and comes with a polarmount for motorising. | ||
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Channel Master Trade Prices from their website. 622430050 2.4m Receive Only with LNBF Kit (Heavy Duty 6 5/8" AZ/EL) 2003,45 € 622430301 2.4m Receive Only Class 2 antenna with Ku-Band Cross Polarization Single Polarity Feed 2012,79 € 622430401 2.4m Receive Only Class 2 antenna with Ku-Band Cross Polarization Dual Polarity Feed 2045,95 € 622435401 2.4m Receive Only Class 3 antenna with Ku-Band Cross Polarization Single Polarity Feed 2025,54 €  4VL16 Tray Type Non Penetrating Roof Mount(NPRM) designed for 2.4m antennas 80 max.windspeed 668,10 €  4VL32 Tray Type Non Penetrating Roof Mount(NPRM) designed for 2.4m antennas 125 max.windspeed 815,14 €  610013101 Kingpost designed for 2.4m antennas 307,69 €Just thought I'd let you know in case you don't already have the pricing.Nick | |||
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23-12-2003
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| From the UK - so GBP / sterling Prodelin 1252 - fixed antenna 2.4m - £655 + tax (single polarity Ku feed) Prodelin 1253 - Polarmount antenna - £799 + tax (requires separate feed) Prodelin 0800707 - post/foundation - £349 + tax (5.5"/140mm diameter) 1253 antenna requires the heavy duty 2" shaft type actuator Prices correct as from 20/12/03 from Sematron, Basingstoke UK | ||
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Tony, If you want to hold on till mid Jan I just had an interesting chat with a local installer/supplier Billy@Telestarr here in Malta. Billy tells me that they have ordered Supral Offset antennas http://www.supral.net/ant2_4.htm in the 2.7m (2670mm) variety. This is a 2.7m offset dish that they will have in stock here in Malta mid-Jan. Billy tells me that he intends to install one immediately at their shop to see whether they can receive the 2D beam and what the performance is like. He has indicated a price of around 700 Euros for the local market. If you like I can pass on how this tests goes and maybe that will help you make a decision as to whether a dish of this size or bigger will do the job. If you want to speak to Billy directly he can be reached on: Telestarr Ltd http://www.telestarr.com.mt/ Tel. +356 21 413026 They accept International orders as well and shipping should be very well priced from here to Sicily. Have a Merry Christmas, Nick | ||
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| Nick, have a Marry Christmas too.. Thank you for your help.. After christmas holidays i am going to check a 2,4 mt dish. I found a guy who doesnt live so far from here. Im very excited!!! Of course I will let you know how it goes.. Pls lets stay in touch.. Ciao Tony I wrote Santa ans asked for the bloody Astra 2D here and in Malta..  fingers cross.. | ||
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| Hi Nick, I hope you had a great Christmas day. I dont know what your system is but for your knowledge I have a 1.5 mt dish with Panasonic 30 and Invacom 0,3. I can get all Astra 2A north and south beams, Astra 2B only south beam. With about 70 % reception from all Transborders. Maybe it could be helpful. Have a great Boxing Day Talk to you soon Ciao Tony | ||
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| and Nick, about The prices of Channel Master dishes. I investigated and there is a 14 % and VAT 20 % to add to that price.That makes prices going up to almost € 3000 and i couldnt have sorted out about the shipping price yet. I think the best option so far is to buy a Patriot Dish, almost as good as Channel Master and much cheaper. I am waiting for a reply from them to see if they can ship it over here and how much will it cost. The Supral option seems to be quite good as well. Hopefully it will work. You can tell your installer that im ready to buy the dish from him if that dish will work. Anyway lets wait and see how it goes before we do any plans. Ciao Tony | ||
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My System: 3m(sky),1.8m(astr/hotbird),1m (nilesat)1m(arabsat)diseqc 4,sky plus,humax freesat,visionet 8000s,technomate 5400 ci+ usb super. Satlook nit colour + Horizon hdsm. wii  | There is also the Famaval 2.4m prime focus dish from Portugal,better than andersen,patriot and dh of the same size.I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this make.It also has extensions designed for it which increases the diameter to 3.1m. | ||
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My System: Famaval 2.4m dish, Invacom 0.2dB LNB (single), Pace 430N |
sold me a USA made dish, but on checking with my supplier I learnt different). I can confirm it works better than other 2.4M dishes used by others in the same neck of the woods here in Cyprus. I am wondering if extending it to 3.1 m MIGHT (??) pull in BBC + ITV signals from Astra 2D. Maybe (?) you can advise or comment - thanks, Geoff | |||
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My System: 3m(sky),1.8m(astr/hotbird),1m (nilesat)1m(arabsat)diseqc 4,sky plus,humax freesat,visionet 8000s,technomate 5400 ci+ usb super. Satlook nit colour + Horizon hdsm. wii | First of all,you need to try the invacom lnb to see if you can get bbc during the day,then see what time you lose it,and then try a pace 2600 if you dont have one already,to improve things,then the extensions. But I think,because of your location,you will need a 3.8m dish | ||
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My System: Famaval 2.4m dish, Invacom 0.2dB LNB (single), Pace 430N |
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