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My System: 1.25m offset dish for Astra2 28deg., 1.2m dual feed for Astra1 and Hotbird, Pace V3 Sky + box, Humax HDCI2000, I-Can 2000T (digital terrestrial) Dragon CAM, Invacom 0.3 twin lnb, Dell Dimension 4400, 1 meg broadband |
Hi lads, Recently purchased a new dish, 125cm offset, and Invacom 0.3 lnb for sky digital. However, I only see Astra 2A North beam from 6pm to 10pm and only one transponder! It's the one with Plus and Sky One Mix. No British Eurosport or any of the movie channels! I have perfect reception of 2A south (of course) and no problems whatsoever with 2B north or south. I'm located an hour and a half east of Rome where I'm told they see all the channels 24 hours with the same size dish! How can this be? regards D. | ||
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I checked in detail reception of transponder TP24 12168V (the one with Channel 4). Channel 4 starts to be visible at about 18:30 and remain visible till 24:00. The following results were taken at the end of June. SS means Signal Strength and SQ means Signal Quality: TP24 12168V at 18:20 SS=10% SQ=10% image drops TP24 12168V at 18:45 SS=10% SQ=20% image good TP24 12168V at 19:10 SS=10% SQ=20% image good TP24 12168V at 19:40 SS=20% SQ=30% image good TP24 12168V at 19:54 SS=20% SQ=40% image good TP24 12168V at 21:00 SS=20% SQ=30% image good TP24 12168V at 22:25 SS=10% SQ=20% image good I also checked other transponders on 2A North Beam and results are the following: TP03 11758H at 22:00 no signal TP04 11778V at 22:00 no signal TP07 11836H at 22:05 no signal TP08 11856V at 22:05 no signal TP11 11914H at 22:10 no signal TP12 11934V at 22:10 no signal TP23 12148H at 21:55 SS=10% SQ=20% TP24 12168V at 21:55 SS=10% SQ=30% TP27 12226H at 21:57 SS=10% SQ=30% TP40 12480V at 22:00 SS=10% SQ=50% As comparison on 2B North Beam I have the following result: (other transponders are the same) TP35 12382H at 22:25 SS=30% SQ=90% I found that adjusting the skew was very important to improve reception of 2A North Beam. According to Astra, "2A North Beam" and "2B North beam" have the same footprint, instead in Central Italy there is a big difference in signal strength. Previously (2 years ago) I had a 80cm dish and it was perfect for receiving everything excluding "2A North Beam" and 2D. My receiver is a Pace 2500 (according to many peoples not the best one for fringe areas). | |||
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We are in the same city, and we have the same problem. You now i have a 3mt dish , panasonic 30 and Mti 0.6. Yes the best signal in the evening is 8.00 pm (i've 70% quality).Now i see all the H frequency all day, but i lose the V for some hour in the morning (SKEW POSITION). In this time i can see the 11778V from 9.00am to 15.00pm, and after from 17 pm to night....., i think that when the high frequency reduce the power you can see the low frequency..... Try to connect the lnb/recevier with a 50-100mt of cable.In thi way you reduce the high frequency power. in my case work...... Ciao | |||
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| Hi, I'm located in Rome these are the results I got last March with my 0.8 dish and GDS 310 Grundig ( only the Signal Quality is reported as the Signal Strength was always 100% ) : Time 08:00 PM CET Date 21 March 2003 location Rome (ITALY) dish 0,80 m cable 10 m box GRUNDIG GDS 310/S software 3.1a.5 lnb 0.7 db 11758 h 2 07d3 10 % 2an 11778 v 2 07d4 10 % 2an EPG 11836 h 2 07d7 5 % 2an 11856 v 2 07d8 20 % 2an 11914 h 2 07db 10 % 2an 11934 v 2 07dc 20 % 2an Sky Cust 12070 h 2 07 e2 70 % 2bn 12090 v 2 07 e4 80 % 2bn 12148 h 2 07 e7 30 % 2an 12168 v 2 07 e8 30 % 2an Channel 4 12226 h 2 07 eb 30 % 2an 12304 h 2 07 ef 70 % 2bn 12324 v 2 07 f0 80 % 2bn 12382 h 2 07 f3 80 % 2bn 12480 v 2 07 f8 30 % 2an I'm still amazed by the difference in signal between the 2A North and 2B North ( 2B north even better than the South Beam for some frequencies!). In addition since May I noticed a general degradation of the signal form the 2A North beam, at the moment I can receive 11778 from 8:00 AM to 7 PM only. Thankfully 12168 is still good enough to view Channel 4 at any hours of the day ( even in light rain condition ). Is there any specialist out there who can explain me why ? Ciao PS : can you confirm that after having lost the BBC Channel, as an owner of an old ( not matched ) FTV card I'm going to loose very soon Channel 4 and 5 as well , because of card deactivation ? Please tell me not.... I'm desperate ! | ||
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My System: 1.25m offset dish for Astra2 28deg., 1.2m dual feed for Astra1 and Hotbird, Pace V3 Sky + box, Humax HDCI2000, I-Can 2000T (digital terrestrial) Dragon CAM, Invacom 0.3 twin lnb, Dell Dimension 4400, 1 meg broadband |
They are excellent. I can't understand how that guy in Rome with the 120cm dish can see everything 24 hours......Barney, I see on a forum you asked him for his phone number to speak in Italian. What happenned? Ameolive, What size is your dish?? Are you saying it's only 80cm??? Yes, the card you speak of will be switched off soon! Only the new Sky cards will open Channel 4 & 5. regards D. | |||
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| Yes I confirm it is a 80 cm dish installed outside my balcony. I think that the figures I have are pretty consistent with the ASTRA 2AN fingerprints provided by ASTRA SES, you can see that Rome is on the boundary line between 80 and 90 cm dish. What I cannot explain is why I get such a strong signal from 2B North, while, in accordance with the above maps, it should be the same as 2A North ! Anyway all of these discussions are useless, at least as far as I'm concerned, considering that as by the end of this month I will be loosing all the remaining channels .... Needless to say that I don't know anyone in Britain who can subcribe on my behalf to Sky to get a new card. All the best Ciao | ||
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Blog Entries: 3 My System: Sky+, DB 7000s, Gemini 4.3 in flash, Var on USB stick. Transparent 80cm Dish, Moteck SG2100 DiseqC motor, lots of legacy gear. Meters: Satlook Digital NIT, Unaohm EP313, Swires Annie 204 Spectrum, Rover ST-4 Spectrum. | Not time to despair yet, there may still be a solution to this, you may have to go without for a period, but I reckon that some time in the near future, things will be resolved.
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In any case, also on behalf of my english wife, many thanks for the glimpse of hope Yours Ameolive | |||
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Blog Entries: 3 My System: Sky+, DB 7000s, Gemini 4.3 in flash, Var on USB stick. Transparent 80cm Dish, Moteck SG2100 DiseqC motor, lots of legacy gear. Meters: Satlook Digital NIT, Unaohm EP313, Swires Annie 204 Spectrum, Rover ST-4 Spectrum. | LOL, sorry that it's only BBC parliament, but let's hope that they see some sense.
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