Viasat subscription

satmonkey · 16-09-2007

Hi,

anyone know of a shop that sells original Viasat (Sweden) subscriptions for residents outside Scandinavia?

-SB-

piticle · 20-12-2007

I have the same interesting, please if some one have information.

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**Analoguesat** · 20-12-2007

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**dig deep** · 20-12-2007

It can´t be done.

U must have an adress in Scandinavia

Copy right problem

kitschcamp · 26-12-2007

Or more to the point Viasat require (as do most Swedish companies to be fair) you to have a Swedish personal number - the equivalent of a NI number - and ID card, plus a permanent address in Sweden, and be of good standing. If a person bought a card on your behalf, it's them personally that would have the credit check against them, and be liable for your possible failure to pay in the future going against their name on the government run list of debtors.

satmonkey · 27-12-2007

The Swedish offering is not unlike most other domestic Pay-TV offerings - and there are frequently individuals or companies which provide this as a service to non-domestic viewers.

I imagine that possibly the demand for Nordic Pay-TV is not as high as for example Spanish, Italian, German, British packages.

In my case, I am actually Swedish - as are my parents - but we all live abroad. And we don't want to burden relatives or friends.

**Low Profile** · 27-12-2007

digitalsales.co.uk advertise the Viasat package for a whopping £745

kitschcamp · 27-12-2007

Jeez! The full package is only 299 SEK (£22-£23) a month.

satmonkey · 28-12-2007

That's a nice profit they're making. Not sure SVT1+2 is really worth 750£ per year.

**dig deep** · 28-12-2007

If U are just out for those 2 try to get a local card from Cnal D
80 sek/month They also offer tv4 and some more channels in that card

satmonkey · 29-12-2007

I'd love to get it ... but I'm a Swede living in Switzerland and that makes it tricky unless I can find someone living in Sweden to help me.

**HB13DISH** · 29-12-2007

Originally Posted by satmonkey

The Swedish offering is not unlike most other domestic Pay-TV offerings - and there are frequently individuals or companies which provide this as a service to non-domestic viewers.

I imagine that possibly the demand for Nordic Pay-TV is not as high as for example Spanish, Italian, German, British packages.

In my case, I am actually Swedish - as are my parents - but we all live abroad. And we don't want to burden relatives or friends.

Hello satmonkey,

I understand your problem and also your wish not to burden relatives or friends.
If I had a similar position, I wouldn't hesitate to request a relative who is already a subscriber to get another smartcard and send it to you to Switzerland.
It would be better to send them presents that they can appreciate than to waste money on shops that makes outrageous profits.
Have you checked if you are entitled to subscribe, even if you are living abroad?
I know that Swiss nationals are entitled for a smartcard all over the world. Also Croatians.

satmonkey · 30-12-2007

Hi,

Yes, it's not legal to obtain a Canal Digital or Viasat subscription outside Sweden even if you're a citizen living abroad, I think. There's a separate channel SVT Europe for people abroad but it's a very restricted offering.

If it was just the smartcard, it wouldn't be so bad. But I think Canal Digital and Viasat are bound to a receiver and that requires much more work.

Maybe next summer, I try to go to Sweden for a short visit. I'm still hoping that there's another way.

craggers82 · 09-01-2008

Satmonkey,

You are allowed to subscribe to Viasat or any other European broadcaster provided you are in Europe. Read the Television without Frontiers directive. It states there that transmissions should not be restricted to territories and free movement of goods and services applies.

If you try to subscribe to Viasat direct, they will say that it is illegal for users outside Sweden to subscribe to their service. However, this is nonsense as they are only abiding by their own company rules and not international law. Every European broadcaster have agents which supply subscriptions to users outside territories and they have the right to do this, due to the Television without Frontiers directive. I would seek a satellite distributor in your area that sells Viasat subscriptions from agents.

satmonkey · 10-01-2008

If anyone knows any satellite distributors or agents anywhere that would sell me a legal viasat subscription, I'd happily contact them. Unfortunately, I know none. I've surfed the internet extensively and been at all local retailers.

**rolfw** · 10-01-2008

Originally Posted by craggers82

Satmonkey,

You are allowed to subscribe to Viasat or any other European broadcaster provided you are in Europe. Read the Television without Frontiers directive. It states there that transmissions should not be restricted to territories and free movement of goods and services applies.

If you try to subscribe to Viasat direct, they will say that it is illegal for users outside Sweden to subscribe to their service. However, this is nonsense as they are only abiding by their own company rules and not international law. Every European broadcaster have agents which supply subscriptions to users outside territories and they have the right to do this, due to the Television without Frontiers directive. I would seek a satellite distributor in your area that sells Viasat subscriptions from agents.

Yes, you are correct as far as European law is concerned, but not as far as international copyright law goes and the latter is what the providers go by at the moment.

Also, Switzerland is not in the EU, so doesn't fall under the jurisdiction of EU laws.

craggers82 · 10-01-2008

Valid point. However, the concerns over copyright are not consistent. If subscibers outside territories are forbidden in paying a subscription, then why can DVD's be bought in Europe and shipped to the UK. The broadcaster's rules are all wrong.

Also I have just found a link to another directive aimed to be set regarding copyright and satellite broadcasting.

Copyright and related rights: satellite broadcasting and cable retransmission

The purpose of this Directive is to promote the free cross-border satellite broadcasting of programmes and their cable retransmission from other Member States, and in particular to remove the obstacles arising from disparities between national provisions on copyright and from the legal uncertainty that exists in this field.

taken from http://europa.eu/scadplus/leg/en/lvb/l26031.htm

**rolfw** · 10-01-2008

The DVD point is not the same, as Europe is a region in itself, but don't really want to divert this thread from its original subject. This is a subject already under discussion elsewhere.

**HB13DISH** · 11-01-2008

Originally Posted by satmonkey

If anyone knows any satellite distributors or agents anywhere that would sell me a legal viasat subscription, I'd happily contact them. Unfortunately, I know none. I've surfed the internet extensively and been at all local retailers.

Hi satmonkey,

I also tried to help you and searched for this subscription outside Sweden, but without success.

In Post #6 , you mentioned that you don't want to burden your friends and relatives.
Maybe it is time to look into this possibility, Surely they will understand why you need their help.

satmonkey · 11-01-2008

Yeah, I know. Maybe next summer.

It seems trivial to get an original Sky UK subscription even if outside the UK. So many dealers offer this. It's a shame nobody does this for Swedish Pay TV.

**Cupart** · 24-04-2008

If you are interested in Swedish TV, why not go for SVT Europa?

It compromises the best from SVT 1 & 2 and you can actually receive it in Switzerland, where as I doubt it you will get any of the Nordic beams which includes the Viasat bouquet.

My mum is Swedish and I got her a subscription through their web site (h**p://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=41923&lid=puff_474427) which she is using in Southern France without problems. The Eurobird9 footprint covers most of Europe at 50dBW so you won't need a mega dish...

Let's know what you go for...

Cheers,

F

**Cupart** · 24-04-2008

Originally Posted by satmonkey

It seems trivial to get an original Sky UK subscription even if outside the UK. So many dealers offer this.

It is still breaking Sky's T&C so technically it is illegal...

Wolves · 25-04-2008

@Satmonkey.

It is also posible to get " Frikanalspaketet" direct to a Viasat decoder without card. ( SVT 1/2/24. TV4. TV6. Barnkanalen/Kunnskapskanalen.)
The package doesn't cost anything. You need adress in Sweden and a Viasat decoder. Maybe you can borrow an adress from your relatives/friends?

Regards Wolves.

**bigtee** · 25-04-2008

Re breaking Sky's T & C: technically this is not "illegal" but at worst a breach of contract which is a civil matter. It is not even inconceivable that the condition in the T & C preventing use abroad may one day itself be ruled unlawful.

**Low Profile** · 25-04-2008

One technicality that most people overlook is that broadcasters pay for broadcast rights covering certain areas (for example for large sporting events).
If you're watching an event on Sky in Germany or France for example - where Premiere or Multivision have paid for the broadcast rights, then I have the suspicion that those broadcasters would insist that you subscribe to them.

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