A couple of questions about the dragon

***steffan_st*** · 22-09-2004

1.Is the dragoncam auto-updating when codes are changed from the provider?

2.In a webshop I've read that the dragon does:S*ca Mediag*ard 1+2, Ird*to 1+2, Bet*crypt, Viacc*ss 1+2, TPSCr*pt, @SkyCr*pt, SHLCr*pt, Nagr*Vision, C*nax, Cr*ptoworks, N*S.
But can it decode all of these systems or do you have to choose some of them?

***loftyj*** · 22-09-2004

1) As far as I know no AU, At least mine has-not in the 2 months that I have had it.

2) I think it will open all of these depending on the reciver that you have and the software you can load to cam. at the moment Predator 2.2 is the main software in use and in my case opens most of the main transponders on Astra, Hotbird and Thor, but depending on the encription not all channels.

If you go for this cam I would recomend you also go for Dynamite Programmer takes about 5 minutes to put in new software, lot less time than trying to put in new keys by hand

***steffan_st*** · 23-09-2004

Thnk you for this info loftyj,I'm new to this cam business. But are there any other cams with AU?

***loftyj*** · 24-09-2004

Sorry unable to help with that one. Maybe one of the other members can help.

zardoz99 · 24-09-2004

AFAIK the Dragon cannot handle N*S at all.

**newboy45** · 09-01-2005

am i right in assuming that if the dragoncam does not open up a particular channel then you attempt it through the debug option. ie: tune onto the particular channel, select the appropriate encryption and enter the key avilable for that channel manually. if it is the correct key the channel should descramble. also could any body please let me know the way to enter this keys. if the keys are avilable a * * * * x 8 from the sites, you enter the last three of each o the star ie: omit the first * and enter the last three stars of the first number then press ok button and continue this process eight times. mine is a manhattan plaza 3300 ci receiver with two slots for cams.
i have been trying hard to understand this process for sometime without any success for a newcomer
thanks

**nr66** · 18-01-2005

Hi newboy45,
i have started a thread asking the same question : how can i edit dragon cam keys using the debug option with the stb remote ? couldn't get a strait answer,or rather no answer at all .but browsing through the forum which i must admit is so rich with information ,i found out that there are 2 type of keys: hex and dec,some sites will name them hex keys and remote keys .so when you look in some keys sites,they will provide both type of keys and the keys u need are the dec or remote keys (3 numbers),enter the numbers and the cam will convert them to hex keys.I can't say i have try it ,but i am pretty sure this is how it goes. only suggesting ,good luck.
nr66.

**newboy45** · 02-02-2005

hi nr66
any further progress m8 on this subject. like to hear from you. there are programs on the net that can be downloaded to convert hex to decimal. i have still not attempted the debug option on the cam properly. if you have hjad any more success please let me know
thanks

**Analoguesat** · 02-02-2005

You can covert any hex to dec and back again using the calculator (scientific version) to be found on on any computer!

***wolfav*** · 03-02-2005

you could also be lazy an just download converted cam keys from certain web pages and also i have never used the debug in the dragon i just load the cam with latest version

**newboy45** · 03-02-2005

hi wolfav,
i do the same as well. i am under the impression that the debug option is for channels that do not open up when the latest version is loaded and there is a possibility of opening them up by inputting the right keys using the debug option. could any m8s please tell me if i am wrong.
so is there no other way of opening channels that do not open up after loading the latest version of the authentic predator.
thanks

***rob43*** · 03-02-2005

Originally Posted by newboy45

hi wolfav,
i do the same as well. i am under the impression that the debug option is for channels that do not open up when the latest version is loaded and there is a possibility of opening them up by inputting the right keys using the debug option. could any m8s please tell me if i am wrong.
so is there no other way of opening channels that do not open up after loading the latest version of the authentic predator.
thanks

afaik the debug is for changing keys if there has been no change in the pred versions, but i could be wrong!

**nr66** · 04-02-2005

Hi newboy45,
the debug option is simlpy a key editing tool.so if the new keys of a certain system( eg:viaccess1/2...) are availabe on the net before the cam latest version, u can enter the new keys using the remote after converting hex to dec(here at this site,go to download and get the converter program for free).BUT,let's be clear about something, u can only edit keys of a system(eg:via**ess1/2 or se*a1/2...) that is already in the cam latest firmware version.the aim the firmware is to have all the keys available of all the systems that have been ha**ed.
hope this will helpful.
nr66

**newboy45** · 18-02-2005

Originally Posted by nr66

Hi newboy45,
the debug option is simlpy a key editing tool.so if the new keys of a certain system( eg:viaccess1/2...) are availabe on the net before the cam latest version, u can enter the new keys using the remote after converting hex to dec(here at this site,go to download and get the converter program for free).BUT,let's be clear about something, u can only edit keys of a system(eg:via**ess1/2 or se*a1/2...) that is already in the cam latest firmware version.the aim the firmware is to have all the keys available of all the systems that have been ha**ed.
hope this will helpful.
nr66

Thanks nr66

Victornvn · 11-05-2005

Mine is a manhattan plaza 3300 CIi receiver with two slots for cams. Can anybody tell me the process of entering the Keys in this Receiver.I have been trying hard to understand this process for sometime without any success
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