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Old 13-06-2005   #1
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Discovery, Sky Italia gone!!!
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anyone knows the new keys for sky italia?
not getting discovery channels, universal, etc anymore!!!
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I think sly italia is dead Its gone Nds.
I cant find ant new keys.... may it rip
fox and fox life gone too
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Originally Posted by mrminibus
I think sly italia is dead Its gone Nds.
I cant find ant new keys.... may it rip
fox and fox life gone too
yes its gone nds, but you´ll get fox and fox life on 30 west albeit different progs
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anyone knows the new keys for sky italia?
not getting discovery channels, universal, etc anymore!!!
you're not going to get anything more from sky Italia (nor with Dragon nor with anything else): they're only Videoguard now, no more Seca...
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Originally Posted by danit
you're not going to get anything more from sky Italia (nor with Dragon nor with anything else): they're only Videoguard now, no more S*ca...
You can still watch some sky Italia channels. I saw this on Croatian Satellite Forum but do not understand what is ecm_pid. So if someone does here is the list.

JETIX
ecm_pid: 1291

FOX LIFE
ecm_pid: 1293

JIMMY
ecm_pid: 1288

CARTON NETWORK
ecm_pid: 1289

NATIONAL GEOGRAFIC
ecm_pid: 1281

NATIONAL GEOGRAFIC +1
ecm_pid: 1285

A1
ecm_pid: 1281

CACCIA E PESCA
ecm_pid: 1281

ALICE
ecm_pid: 1281

LEONARDO
ecm_pid: 1283

HISTORY+1
ecm_pid: 1283

MARCO POLO
ecm_pid: 1287

CULT
ecm_pid: 1297

PLANET
ecm_pid: 1286

NUVOLARI
ecm_pid: 1285

SNAI SAT
ecm_pid: 1283
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they're for S*ca-Mediaguard 2, don't work anymore, sky Italia is encrypting only in NDS now, and NDS is not cracked...
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Originally Posted by danit
they're for S*ca-Mediaguard 2, don't work anymore, sky Italia is encrypting only in NDS now, and NDS is not cracked...
Yes you are right for NDS, but these channels still works in seca 2, but if you scan them again you will see only NDS. These ecm pids are hidden and you have to put them manualy but I don't know how to do that. I saw on Croatian Forum today that some guys can still watch it.
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Originally Posted by tomo2106
Yes you are right for NDS, but these channels still works in S*ca 2, but if you scan them again you will see only NDS. These ecm pids are hidden and you have to put them manualy but I don't know how to do that. I saw on Croatian Forum today that some guys can still watch it.
No mate. Danit is correct. All sky Italia on Hotbird (except one Nat Geo Channel, I think) gone for good. Or at least untill NDS is ever cracked.
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Yes you are right for NDS, but these channels still works in S*ca 2, but if you scan them again you will see only NDS. These ecm pids are hidden and you have to put them manualy but I don't know how to do that. I saw on Croatian Forum today that some guys can still watch it.
mmmh.., I don't know...
in Italy lots of people have S*ca2 sky official cards updated 'til june 30th and they don't work anymore, so... anyway, good for croatians...
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It would appear that the ECM Pid has just been increased by a count of 1 in each case. (still can't get it to work in ProgDvb though)
It seems only to be transmitted with ND$.

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It would appear that the ECM Pid has just been increased by a count of 1 in each case. (still can't get it to work in ProgDvb though)
It seems only to be transmitted with ND$.

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http://www.satelitskiforum.net/wbb2/...tuser=0&page=5

You can see on this site. I really don't know how to manage it but they said it works. here is summary with some example:

ecm override za newcamd 6.00/6.01 ,
not same format as 5.28!


# <sid>::<orig caid>:<orig prov>:<orig ecm>::<new caid>:<new prov>:<new ecm>

# VH-1
1B5A:0961:000000:0500:0961:000000:0501

Orig ecm put NDS but new ecm put mediaguard
Same for caid. provider ID for NDS is 0000 and for seca is 0070
If anyone knows how this work think it help
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Originally Posted by tomo2106
ecm override za newcamd 6.00/6.01 ,
not same format as 5.28!


# <sid>::<orig caid>:<orig prov>:<orig ecm>::<new caid>:<new prov>:<new ecm>

# VH-1
1B5A:0961:000000:0500:0961:000000:0501
Try putting the following lines into the /var/scce directory in a file "ecmoverrule". Create that file if it doesn't exist. The lines are as follows :
0e31::0919:000000:0506::0100:0070:0507
1FC5::0919:000000:050C::0100:0070:050D
0DCA::0919:000000:0507::0100:0070:0508
1FB9::0919:000000:0500::0100:0070:0501
1FBD::0919:000000:0504::0100:0070:0505
0E2E::0919:000000:0500::0100:0070:0501
0E2F::0919:000000:0502::0100:0070:0503
1FBB::0919:000000:0502::0100:0070:0503
1FC9::0919:000000:0510::0100:0070:0511
0DC9::0919:000000:0505::0100:0070:0506
0E30::0919:000000:0504::0100:0070:0505
1FC7::0919:000000:050E::0100:0070:050F
1FC3::0919:000000:050A::0100:0070:050B
1FC1::0919:000000:0508::0100:0070:0509

now re-activate newcamd 6.0/6.1 : this should bring back the following sky Italia channels :
JETIX
FOX LIFE
JIMMY
CARTOON NETWORKS
NATIONAL GEOGRAFIC
NATIONAL GEOGRAFIC +1
A1
CACCIA E PESCA
ALICE
LEONARDO
HISTORY +1
MARCOPOLO
CULT
PLANET
NUVOLARI
SNAI

however, this doesn't allways seem to work. Some people get some channels back, others get nothing at all. It's not clear why it works with some dreamboxes, and not with others. It's probably due to the different images, and don't forget : since you're decrypting seca2 again, you need to have the correct keys as well !
hope this will help some of you guys !
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