Yes Israel Package on Amos 4W

HB13DISH

This is the Yes Israel Package details pages.

Yes is the best package in the Middle East, but it is also the most expensive especially due to the fact that their entry level of the equivalent of $47 in local currency is absolutely OUTRAGEOUS.
Many of the channels in the Basic Package are actually FTA channels which can be received using a personal satellite system pointing to Amos 4W, Hot Bird 13E and Nilesat 7W.
The rest of the channels in the Basic are just standard basic which are not exciting enough to let you want to part with $47 every month !!!

If you look at the channels list below, you can see all the channel details in the Basic Package and the options.
On the far left side there is a column which shows those channels which are in fact FTA and on which satellite.

Comparing the Yes Basic to the Sky Italia Mondo of about 70 encrypted channels costing 24 Euro/month for example will just show how expensive this is.

Once you get the Basic Package, there are many options at reasonable price which can be added to the subscription.

The receiver is a cheap one which has support for NDS (Videoguard) encryption and would not let the subscriber scan other channels on Amos 4W.

Yes is unique in that they are the only package which doesn't have any FTA channel, not even one tiny radio channel !!!

In addition, they strip the original teletext transmission from channels that have it, in order to conserve bandwidth.
Probably they think that since they are giving EPG, then the subscriber is not entitled to see the information that a teletext can give.
Funny thing is that subscribers don't even realize this.

http://www.satellite-newbie.co.uk/sat1/yes1.htm



The channels details

http://www.satellite-newbie.co.uk/sat1/yes2.htm

Turok

,so signal here,in central europe
also with 4,5 m dish absolut nothing
can you post some pictures,that we can see the tv logos!
thx!

HB13DISH

Hi Turok,
The Yes package is transmitted from Amos 1 and Amos 2 on the Middle East beam so I doubt if you can receive a signal at all.
All the channels are secured with NDS and you can see the logos from the Lyngsat link that is given above.
If you click on any of the channels, it will open the website.
Here are the footprints links for Middle East beam and Europe beam

Can you receive any of the channels in the Europe beam ? There are several FTA channels.

HB13DISH

I think it is because when the Nova Greek package (came first) decided on their unreasonable prices, that they set a bad example in the Middle East.

I checked just now and Nova has now an entry level of 29.5 Euro (~$40) with similar basic channels, without BBC Prime.
Their full fackage is 57 Euro (~$78).

HB13DISH

According to Lyngsat:
http://www.lyngsat.com/amos.html

There has been some changes in the frequencies of FTA channels on Amos

IBA Channel 1
IBA Channel 33
11,127 V, 8518, 3/4

Israel 10
Channel 2
11,177 V, 8520, 2/3

Knesset Channel
11,625 V, 3000, 3/4

There are also several FTA radio channels.

It is rediculous that the same channels are encrypted and sent on different frequencies and included in the Basic Package so that subscribers would pay more since they have no idea what is going on on the same dish that Yes uses.

HB13DISH

Yes will launch on 23/12/2007 three HD channels:

- National Geographic HD
- YesHD (Films and TV series in HD)
- Sport 5 HD
The service cost will be 39.9 NIS (~$10) a month and subscribers must sign up a 36 months contract and will have a new receiver with HD support.
One-time Installation cost 139 NIS (~$36) with a cancellation fine of 1000 NIS (~$256) if before the 36 months contract period.
The Sport HD will be free for the first 3 months (without commitment to the 36 months contract) and after that the cost will be 14.9 NIS/month (~$4)

solly

what the channel to upgrade card ota of yes ?

HB13DISH

Here are some pictures of Yes dishes in Kfar Saba.
See if you can guess the satellites they are pointing to.
Would be great to see similar photos from other providers all over Europe and Asia.

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HB13DISH

The Israeli Parliament (Knesset) approved recently a free package of five Israel channels.

Before the end of this year, Israelis will be able to tune into five digital TV channels free of charge after buying a decoder which will cost only 400 NIS. (~ $110)

The channels are:

- Channel 1
- Channel 2
- Channel 10
- Channel 33
- Knesset Channel

The platform is yet to be determined.
It is only logical that it might be offered by Yes (satellite) or Hot (cable).

These same channels are being transmitted for some time as FTA from Amos 4W and it is necessary to install a personal dish and to buy an FTA receiver.

The new offer of a modem costing only 400 NIS is certainly a lot cheaper than a private installation, but it has the drawback of being limited to only those five channels.

I would just like to add that this would be a blessing to a lot of pensioners and low income households who are forced to pay the outrageous monthly prices that Yes or Hot charge now for their entry level package, which include these same channels.
The decision should have been made many years ago, but it is better late than never.

koko_varna

It's interesting how Yes receives 3sat and RTL to uplink them to Amos, as Astra 1 footprint ends far away from Israel.

HB13DISH

I think that they use one of the large dishes in Post # 8

shavit

The new FTA 5-channel package described by HD13DISH is a new TERRESTRIAL package that is expected to start by the end of 2008. It will use MPEG-4 compression . The government is expected to subsidize . The analogue switch-off is expected about 6 months after the complete system will be running nation-wide. Also a digital radio sytem is expected next year using the advanced DAB+ standard. There will be about 40 radio channels available free of charge.
More details are available here
_http://www.godigital.co.il ( there a few pages in English ).
More details about satellite tv in Israel are available from _http://www.satil.com

HB13DISH

Thanks shavit for this update.
This should give plenty of work for installers of terrestrial systems.
Hope that Yes would have the sense to offer a mini package with special STB for those five FTA channels.

shavit

Well, stupidly enough - YES and HOT ( the only cable operator in Israel) are planning to offer a basic package just to retain clients and actually HOT has just announced another price increase. I think they are about to have a big blow in their face when the digital package finally launches. They were very fierce opponents to the whole DTT idea during discussions in the Knesset committee.

HB13DISH

Please don't mention c a b l e in this forum.
Edit your post and delete all references to above. Thanks.

HB13DISH

Two new HD channels have been added to the Yes Package:

- Yes Stars HD
- MGM Movies
- National Geographic Channel HD UK
- Yes HD (Films and TV series in HD)
- Sport 5 HD

Frequency=11,510 MHz Pol=V SR=30,000 FEC=2/3

divibi

Hi,

Yes Teleclub in the Premium option; is it Russian or Swiss Teleclub or some other? Thanks.

HB13DISH

Sorry, I don't subscribe to Yes so I am not able to tell you for sure.
But according to the Lyngsat Yes Package, the audio is in Hebrew (also indicated in my first post), although the TV channel logo is in Russian.

AG1

I saw the thread about the 5 free to air channels from Israel.

Would I be able to see these here in London using a satellite receiver box and a standard SKY dish?

HB13DISH

No chance with such a small dish.
Nobody has reported yet which size is needed in the UK, but my guess is that you would be lucky to receive it with 3-4 m.
If you ask me, these channels are not worth the trouble, except for the daily news and "London and Kirschenbaum" on ch 10.
They used to have few films and series, but now only rubbish.

shavit

No chance whatsoever to watch channel broadcast via the the AMOS mideast beam in the UK with any dish. Just forget it. <Sorry...>.

torusJKL

I don't think that people will not subscribe anymore because of these few channels. They would not be able to talk about the new Survival season or the Big Brother happenings.

This might be something for seniors but not the average population.