7025 camds and key set up

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#1
i have flashed gemini on to my box every think ok apart from times when all i get is sound no picture.turn on and off at the back seems to sort it.not sure which cam opens which channels is the any were i can get hold of a list of sats and channels that is open with the gemini 130d image and the cams and keys.put all the camds in and camd settings with wot keys there is there.opens d+/multi/tps cabo v on demand and luso.is the any think i am missing as it seems it opens less than a tm with dm patch have no idea how or if you can put extra cams like biss in or differet keys.i now it is a new dreambox and not much support but it must be able to open more than it is with the setup loaded from the blue panel very good the way it works or am i expectting too much from this box so early on in its life.i mean will it get like the 7020 and 7000 with all the support they get and can open a lot more than this at the moment.i have asked many a question on many a site but the support is not there at the moment. which to start with got very lets say p#$@#off with no asnwers from the questions i was asking but now i know why lets hope it gets better.for now it will have to do, any way wots there is free and you can't moan at that.but if some one can set me straight with the camds and keys it would be great so thank you for that .
 

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#2
Camd3 seems to open up most f what is available at the moment. How did you load your keys/cams??. If you downloaded them down from the blue planel button, they might be out of date. You need to ftp in the latest ones from a key site.
 
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how do i go about it john thats the problem never knowing which ones to load and were to put them i can use dreambox control ok that has a ftp i have seen it but never used it.all i need to know is were to put the file to and wot file to use there are so many about.
 
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how do i go about it john thats the problem never knowing which ones to load and were to put them i can use dreambox control ok that has a ftp i have seen it but never used it.all i need to know is were to put the file to and wot file to use there are so many about.
:) You can manully do it with this: 'How to edit keys/files/attributes etc using the plugin 'Tuxbox Commander'.'

found here: http://www.satellites.co.uk/php-bin/forum/showthread.php?t=50270&page=3

The correct paths for the key placements are also shown in that guide for the commonly used emu's. This is an extract from the guide:


Guide to Emu's and their respective key directories/ paths to edit files:

Newcamd: = 'var/scce/constantcw,keylist,rsakeylist,tpscrypt'
or = 'var/tuxbox/scce/constantcw,keylist,rsakeylist,tpscrypt' ....depending on Dreambox/image.

Camd3: = 'var/keys/camd3.keys'

Biss: = 'var/keys/biss_key'

Evocamd: = 'var/keys/Autoupdate.Key' and 'Keylist.txt'

MGcamd: = 'var/keys/AutoRoll.Key' and 'SoftCam.Key'

CamX: = 'var/keys/SoftCam.Key'

Scam: = 'var/keys/irdeto,nagra,seca,tps,via' etc

GBox: = 'var/keys/irdeto,nagra,seca,tps,via' etc

***********************************************************************

Working keys are available in either zip/rar files or in plain text form from dozens of sites. Think the guys here are intimate with the Satdudez site and all the necessary keys can be obtained from there....see 'mach1' files for the Dreambox.

hope it will be of use to you.

Best of luck.

;) lovelyperson
 
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you are a lovelyperson a big thank you will give it a go again thank you.
 
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lovelyperson said:
:) You can manully do it with this: 'How to edit keys/files/attributes etc using the plugin 'Tuxbox Commander'.'

found here: http://www.satellites.co.uk/php-bin/forum/showthread.php?t=50270&page=3

The correct paths for the key placements are also shown in that guide for the commonly used emu's. This is an extract from the guide:


Guide to Emu's and their respective key directories/ paths to edit files:

Newcamd: = 'var/scce/constantcw,keylist,rsakeylist,tpscrypt'
or = 'var/tuxbox/scce/constantcw,keylist,rsakeylist,tpscrypt' ....depending on Dreambox/image.

Camd3: = 'var/keys/camd3.keys'

Biss: = 'var/keys/biss_key'

Evocamd: = 'var/keys/Autoupdate.Key' and 'Keylist.txt'

MGcamd: = 'var/keys/AutoRoll.Key' and 'SoftCam.Key'

CamX: = 'var/keys/SoftCam.Key'

Scam: = 'var/keys/irdeto,nagra,seca,tps,via' etc

GBox: = 'var/keys/irdeto,nagra,seca,tps,via' etc

***********************************************************************

Working keys are available in either zip/rar files or in plain text form from dozens of sites. Think the guys here are intimate with the Satdudez site and all the necessary keys can be obtained from there....see 'mach1' files for the Dreambox.

hope it will be of use to you.

Best of luck.

;) lovelyperson
can not find any were like var/scce etc etc etc find var/usr and usr/scce and usr/keys iam using dreambox centre 281 so far can open polsat/tps/multi on 13e have not done 19e do these channels sound right or should i open more eyes gone square going to give it a rest till later cheers lov/per.
 

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Well if you can see polsat/multivision/tps your ok so. 19e & 30w are your next sats to open so swing around to them.
 
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Well if you can see polsat/multivision/tps your ok so. 19e & 30w are your next sats to open so swing around to them.
o right ok it's just that i got the idea john that the was more on offer with the dreambox i just guess that the is not much support for the 7025 at the minute.
 

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#9
Guys , has anyone got camd3 running on the 7025 ? Its not available for download via the blue panel, and if I ftp files manually the cam is not in the list in the blue panel. Is it that most existing cam emu's are simply not compatible with the 7025 ? I'm trying to see what I can open on 13e but getting nothing with my blue panel stuff or manual install. Any help is greatly appreciated as always.
 
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#10
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Guys , has anyone got camd3 running on the 7025 ? Its not available for download via the blue panel, and if I ftp files manually the cam is not in the list in the blue panel. Is it that most existing cam emu's are simply not compatible with the 7025 ? I'm trying to see what I can open on 13e but getting nothing with my blue panel stuff or manual install. Any help is greatly appreciated as always.
GOOD DAY,
I HAVE just bought a 7025 ,,, having gone through all what you mention in the above, youposted this back a while now did you get any where with your setup.

cheers m1bas
 

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I bought a 7025 a week ago, and with the help of Mark in the 7025 forum have successfully got CCCam up and running, and decoding my NDS Sky card perfectly.

However, after a long and frustrating session I found that the latest version doesn't work. I am using CCcam 1.62 which is running smoothly.

CCCam is available from the blue panel. If you want keys for it (I don't) you need SoftCam.Key which goes in /var/keys

I didn't realise until I started using it just how different the 7025 is from other Dreamboxes. Much of the advice for other boxes doesn't work, and I'm finding myself in a Telnet session far more often than I anticipated.
 
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#12
I think the problem is that the latest version of CCcam (version 1.7.1) cannot automatically calculate the NDS box key. Earlier versions can. Here is a log of CCcam 1.7.0 in action, note that after the nds card is found the boxkey is found immediately after.

root@dm7025:/usr/bin> CCcam_1.7.0 -d
11:43:12.684 CCcam: ======================================================================
11:43:12.687 CCcam: starting CCcam 1.7.0 compiled on Mar 18 2007@19:38:43
11:43:12.687 CCcam: ======================================================================
11:43:12.688 CCcam: online using nodeId 9b278a732825a446
11:43:12.692 CCcam: read config: cannot open /var/etc/CCcam.cfg or not found
11:43:12.693 CCcam: dvb api3 detected
11:43:12.695 CCcam: DM7025 detected
11:43:12.696 CCcam: create 8 cam device(s)
11:43:12.944 CCcam: nds card found
11:43:13.654 CCcam: nds: using boxkey 08***************C5
11:43:15.688 CCcam: card added to broker with caid 961
11:43:15.689 CCcam: readKeyfile: cannot open /var/keys/SoftCam.Key or not found
11:43:15.690 CCcam: readKeyfile: cannot open /var/keys/AutoRoll.Key or not found
11:43:15.690 CCcam: static cw not found or bad
11:43:15.691 CCcam: parsed 0 entries from /var/etc/CCcam.prio
11:43:15.691 CCcam: server started on port 12000
11:43:30.719 CCcam: found nds caid: 0x960 ecmpid: 0x503 id: 0x0
11:43:30.719 CCcam: found nds caid: 0x961 ecmpid: 0x503 id: 0x0
11:43:30.720 CCcam: cam[0] set PMT for sid=1d51
11:43:30.721 CCcam: start EMM
11:43:30.754 CCcam: EMM demux 1 set
11:43:30.755 CCcam: EMM: not interested in 0960:000000
11:43:30.756 CCcam: EMM: start filter on nds emmpid: 0xc0 caid: 0x961 id: 0x0
11:43:30.764 CCcam: local ecm -> card /dev/sci1 0x961(0x000) sid 0x1d51
11:43:30.981 CCcam: local ecm <- card /dev/sci1 error
11:43:30.981 CCcam: cam[0] ecm odd nok caid:0x961 id:0x0 pid:0x503 BSkyB (28E) (NDS)



Here is a log of the same card, same channel using CCcam version 1.7.1 :



root@dm7025:/usr/bin> CCcam_1.7.1 -d
11:44:33.401 CCcam: ============================================================
==========
11:44:33.403 CCcam: starting CCcam 1.7.1 compiled on Apr 16 2007@17:58:35
11:44:33.404 CCcam: ============================================================
==========
11:44:33.405 CCcam: online using nodeId 9b278a732825a446
11:44:33.409 CCcam: read config: cannot open /var/etc/CCcam.cfg or not found
11:44:33.411 CCcam: dvb api3 detected
11:44:33.413 CCcam: DM7025 detected
11:44:33.416 CCcam: create 8 cam device(s)
11:44:33.664 CCcam: nds card found
11:44:36.686 CCcam: readKeyfile: cannot open /var/keys/SoftCam.Key or not found
11:44:36.687 CCcam: readKeyfile: cannot open /var/keys/AutoRoll.Key or not found
11:44:36.687 CCcam: static cw not found or bad
11:44:36.688 CCcam: parsed 0 entries from /var/etc/CCcam.prio
11:44:36.688 CCcam: readProviderfile: cannot open /var/etc/CCcam.providers or not found
11:44:36.689 CCcam: readChannelList: cannot open /var/etc/CCcam.channelinfo or not found
11:44:36.689 CCcam: server started on port 12000
11:44:36.931 CCcam: nds card found
11:44:41.193 CCcam: nds card found
11:44:45.456 CCcam: nds card found
11:44:47.723 CCcam: found nds caid: 0x960 ecmpid: 0x503 id: 0x0
11:44:47.723 CCcam: found nds caid: 0x961 ecmpid: 0x503 id: 0x0
11:44:47.724 CCcam: cam[0] set PMT for sid=1d51
11:44:47.725 CCcam: start EMM
11:44:47.730 CCcam: cam[0] ecm odd nok caid:0x960 id:0x0 pid:0x503 Unknown
11:44:47.828 CCcam: cam[0] ecm odd nok caid:0x961 id:0x0 pid:0x503 Unknown
11:44:47.928 CCcam: cam[0] ecm odd nok caid:0x960 id:0x0 pid:0x503 Unknown
11:44:48.128 CCcam: cam[0] ecm odd nok caid:0x961 id:0x0 pid:0x503 Unknown
11:44:48.140 CCcam: EMM demux 1 set
11:44:48.140 CCcam: EMM: not interested in 0960:000000
11:44:48.140 CCcam: EMM: not interested in 0961:000000
11:44:48.228 CCcam: cam[0] ecm odd nok caid:0x960 id:0x0 pid:0x503 Unknown
11:44:48.328 CCcam: cam[0] ecm odd nok caid:0x961 id:0x0 pid:0x503 Unknown
11:44:49.718 CCcam: nds card found
11:44:53.163 CCcam: enigma interface: disconnected (0)
11:44:53.778 CCcam: found nds caid: 0x960 ecmpid: 0x506 id: 0x0
11:44:53.779 CCcam: found nds caid: 0x961 ecmpid: 0x506 id: 0x0
11:44:53.779 CCcam: cam[0] set PMT for sid=247e
11:44:53.779 CCcam: start EMM
11:44:53.795 CCcam: cam[0] ecm even nok caid:0x960 id:0x0 pid:0x506 Unknown
11:44:53.895 CCcam: cam[0] ecm even nok caid:0x961 id:0x0 pid:0x506 Unknown
11:44:54.019 CCcam: nds card found


You'll see numerous logs of nds card found, but no boxkey.
I wonder if this only happens with the Dreambox 7025 version of CCcam, or does it affect all dreamboxes?
 

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#13
What's interesting is that my output is different - no mention of an NDS card - although it works.

14:58:17.907 CCcam: ======================================================================
14:58:17.909 CCcam: starting CCcam 1.6.2 compiled on Feb 18 2007@17:43:01
14:58:17.909 CCcam: ======================================================================
14:58:17.910 CCcam: online using nodeId ed9120d2beb7220e
14:58:17.916 CCcam: read config: cannot open /var/etc/CCcam.cfg or not found
14:58:17.917 CCcam: dvb api3 detected
14:58:17.919 CCcam: DM7025 detected
14:58:17.919 CCcam: create 8 cam device(s)
14:58:17.924 CCcam: readKeyfile: cannot open /var/keys/SoftCam.Key or not found
14:58:17.924 CCcam: readKeyfile: cannot open /var/keys/AutoRoll.Key or not found
14:58:17.924 CCcam: static cw not found or bad
14:58:17.926 CCcam: parsed 0 entries from /var/etc/CCcam.prio
14:58:17.926 CCcam: server started on port 12000
14:58:17.929 CCcam: no working cam devices, no need to start pmthandler

And that's it!
 
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#14
That's because you are already running CCcam in the background.

Stop it using either : ps -ef and then killing the process ID for CCcam or via the blue panel start the Common Interface Camd.

And then try running CCcam in the foreground using the -d option.
 

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newty;596564 And then try running CCcam in the foreground using the -d option.[/quote said:
You're rignt. This is what I got:

9:08:11.067 CCcam: ======================================================================
19:08:11.070 CCcam: starting CCcam 1.6.2 compiled on Feb 18 2007@17:43:01
19:08:11.070 CCcam: ======================================================================
19:08:11.071 CCcam: online using nodeId ed9120d2beb7220e
19:08:11.075 CCcam: read config: cannot open /var/etc/CCcam.cfg or not found
19:08:11.076 CCcam: dvb api3 detected
19:08:11.078 CCcam: DM7025 detected
19:08:11.079 CCcam: create 8 cam device(s)
19:08:11.323 CCcam: nds card found
19:08:12.011 CCcam: nds: using boxkey 3B**********************B6
19:08:14.019 CCcam: card added to broker with caid 961

19:08:14.020 CCcam: readKeyfile: cannot open /var/keys/SoftCam.Key or not found
19:08:14.021 CCcam: readKeyfile: cannot open /var/keys/AutoRoll.Key or not found
19:08:14.021 CCcam: static cw not found or bad
19:08:14.022 CCcam: parsed 0 entries from /var/etc/CCcam.prio
19:08:14.022 CCcam: server started on port 12000
 

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#16
m1bas,

I've learned a bit about cams & keys since I replied in this thread. I can tell you , a guy at satandream forums said the guy who wrote camd3 has flat refused to develop it for the DM7025 ( GP2 ). So in answer to my own question, Camd3 doesn't exist for the 7025 and it sounds like it never will.

So far I've been using SCAM with my ART card , but art has lost the premiership for next year so it looks like I'll be going to digital alb, I've not got the card yet so not sure which cam to use. I have had newcamd recomended , but again its not available for 7025. Time will tell....

As for earlier reference in this thread to key locations, var is replaced with usr on the Gemini 2 project. So for the DM7025 the keys go in /usr/keys and usr/scce. Just to clear that up.
 
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#17
B16MCC said:
m1bas,

I've learned a bit about cams & keys since I replied in this thread. I can tell you , a guy at satandream forums said the guy who wrote camd3 has flat refused to develop it for the DM7025 ( GP2 ). So in answer to my own question, Camd3 doesn't exist for the 7025 and it sounds like it never will.

So far I've been using SCAM with my ART card , but art has lost the premiership for next year so it looks like I'll be going to digital alb, I've not got the card yet so not sure which cam to use. I have had newcamd recomended , but again its not available for 7025. Time will tell....

As for earlier reference in this thread to key locations, var is replaced with usr on the Gemini 2 project. So for the DM7025 the keys go in /usr/keys and usr/scce. Just to clear that up.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Thanks for the reply,
But can,t find any in depth stuff for the 7025, i have found out that there in a in built link for keys , ete, folders put in the var directory that are then put, linked to the usr -- key, ete folders.

One problem sorted , i am using CCCam 1.71 which from another thread said it does not work with db7025, SO removed and installed CCCan 1,6.2, all the lastest keys BUT still no good, starts and stops made, change of channels, all failing to get the emm working.

Any help to sort from your own experences please drop me a mail or put it on the forum.
Many Thanks m1bas
:-rofl2
 
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#18
billnot said:
What's interesting is that my output is different - no mention of an NDS card - although it works.

14:58:17.907 CCcam: ======================================================================
14:58:17.909 CCcam: starting CCcam 1.6.2 compiled on Feb 18 2007@17:43:01
14:58:17.909 CCcam: ======================================================================
14:58:17.910 CCcam: online using nodeId ed9120d2beb7220e
14:58:17.916 CCcam: read config: cannot open /var/etc/CCcam.cfg or not found
14:58:17.917 CCcam: dvb api3 detected
14:58:17.919 CCcam: DM7025 detected
14:58:17.919 CCcam: create 8 cam device(s)
14:58:17.924 CCcam: readKeyfile: cannot open /var/keys/SoftCam.Key or not found
14:58:17.924 CCcam: readKeyfile: cannot open /var/keys/AutoRoll.Key or not found
14:58:17.924 CCcam: static cw not found or bad
14:58:17.926 CCcam: parsed 0 entries from /var/etc/CCcam.prio
14:58:17.926 CCcam: server started on port 12000
14:58:17.929 CCcam: no working cam devices, no need to start pmthandler

And that's it!
Bill
What do you use to get a so in depth report of what is happening in and around the emmulator.
i have tried telnet commands on the gemini wizzard program but stil cant get into the program stuff .

m1bas :confused
 

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#19
m1bas said:
Bill
What do you use to get a so in depth report of what is happening in and around the emmulator.
i have tried telnet commands on the gemini wizzard program but stil cant get into the program stuff .

m1bas :confused
Start a Telnet session. Stop CCcam (easiest from the Gemini blue panel).

then cd to /usr/bin, run
CCcam_1.6.2 -d

(or whatever version of CCcam you're using)

and then just watch (and capture to post here) the output
 

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Please don't post reams and reams of of config and process information.

Save it as a text file and add it as an attachment if it's more than a few lines.
 
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