ARTE (French channel) at 13E

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#1
Hi

this channel was at 13E on analogue but vanished a couple of weeks ago. Apparently, according to a couple of sources, it is now available on digital at 13E. I cannot pick it up. I've tried rescanning my channels on my digital receiver.

Can anyone else get it at 13E on hotbird? It is supposed to be at
11623 V (Hotbird6) 27500 3/4



Thanks
 

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It was there last night - I remember seeing it near the Romanian channel whilst I was zapping..
 

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Try 10634V its with FRANCE 2,3, AND 5 so may be encrypted[/QUOTE]
Thanks that's interesting as I can't see FRANCE 2 and 3 either. For most encrypted channels (I'm just picking up FTA channels), I usually see the station listed but with scrambled msg. Do you think a software update would help?

(I will eventually get round to getting a dish pointing to 5W).
 

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Burnham Beech said:
Just checked 11623v 27500 3/4.

Arte is definitely there and fta - you should get it on your receiver.
Isn't that the Arte info channel. Arte was on 10834 MHz V SR2750 FEC 3/4
but some like myself are currently unable to decrypt as with France 2,3 and 5 Multivision TPS etc.
 

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@eghamhigh

Sorry M8 gave you the wrong transponder anyway its 10834V and is TPS so update will not do, you would require cam I belive.
 

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I normally watch Arte on the 19e fta channel.

Regarding Arte on 13e. What's the difference between the Arte info channel on 11623v and Arte on 10834V - at the moment they are showing the same programmes.

Do they show different programmes later in the day?
 

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I don't beleive there's any difference between 'arte' on Hotbird or Astra; except Hotbird provides two channels, one in French the other in German. It is also FTA on both these satellites.
 

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I think Rabbs right - there may once have been a difference, but I reckon they show the same programming now. Certainly they have been the same all the times I have seen them on 19E and 13E
 

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Thanks for the info.

So I should be able to get ARTE on Hotbird at 13E at 10834V (digital) FTA. Any ideas why when I scanned the network I didn't pick it up on my Echostar digital receiver? Could it be an LNB problem?
 

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I've tried 11623 27500 V. It is some arabic type station not ARTE. But don't understand what you meant by 3/4 in your reply above. Could someone explain what that is and perhaps I'll have more luck.

The end of the story is that I found a menu on the echostar which allowed me to scan the individual transponders on Hotbird and I now have ARTE - along with loads of other stuff. phew
 

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3/4 is the symbol rate for the channel
 

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No, actually it's the FEC (Forward Error Correction).

From SATCODX (which saved my typing it... :) ):-

Only applicable for digital transmissions.
The FEC (Forward Error Correction) indicates how many Bytes are used for the actual signal, and how many for correction of errors. A FEC of 1/2 means that 1 Byte out of 2 is used for error correction, while a ratio of 7/8 means 7 Bytes are used for the actual signal, and only one for error correction.
A FEC of 1/2 gives as perfect as possible reception, since every Byte containing actual signal is controlled by another Byte checking it.
When a provider chooses a FEC of 7/8 it means he is not wasting any bandwidth at the cost of delivering a signal. The lower amount of error correction means that more sophisticated equipment at the receiving end (for example a more stable and sensitive LNB, or higher reserves with the dish) are needed compared to the same transmission using a FEC of 1/2.
 

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thanks for the info re the FEC. I sorted out my problem receiving ARTE as FTA. I did not realise that I had to scan all the frequencies in manually on the Echostar 808 2CI. Originally I was just doing a global scan and the ARTE FTA was getting missed out.
 

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eghamhigh said:
thanks for the info re the FEC. I sorted out my problem receiving ARTE as FTA. I did not realise that I had to scan all the frequencies in manually on the Echostar 808 2CI. Originally I was just doing a global scan and the ARTE FTA was getting missed out.
Glad to hear that - you will probably find the Arte transponder was missing from the automatic scan list for some reason. Ive just had to factory reset my Echostar an found quite a few transponders missing from assorted satellites..
 
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