Astra 2A transponder moves (was Astra 2E: Iberia & Balearics Reports)

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Companion reports daniel74 signal rise in tp 12480 V 27500.- The Box UK, Kiss, Etc.
Apparently not on the trail north. Rest of tp's and levels.
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El compañero Daniel74 informa de subida de señal en el tp 12480 V 27500.- The Box UK, Kiss, Etc.
Aparentemente no esta en la huella norte. Resto de tp's y sus niveles.

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11428 = 11.00dB Señal/SNR68% AGC99% BER 0 Fashion One/LBP TV ********* + 3dB
11992 = 19.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Dave ************************* + 11dB
12480 = 18.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 The Box/Kiss/Kerrang********* + 12dB

Northern Madrid (40.5458 ° N, 3.612 ° W) near Ikea.
Antenna 94cm, DB800S-HD, simple style.
05/11/2014 13:00
Code:
10714 =  7.50dB Señal/SNR46% AGC99% BER300 Channel4 (c4l)
10729 =  7.50dB Señal/SNR46% AGC99% BER300 Channel 4 +1
10744 =  7.50dB Señal/SNR46% AGC99% BER300 RTE One
10758 =  8.00dB Señal/SNR50% AGC99% BER100 ITV
10773 =  7.00dB Señal/SNR43% AGC99% BER700 BBC 1 London
10788 =  8.00dB Señal/SNR50% AGC99% BER100 BBC 1 Wales
10803 =  7.50dB Señal/SNR46% AGC99% BER300 BBC 1 Scotland
10817 =  8.50dB Señal/SNR53% AGC99% BER 21 BBC 1 Oxford
10832 =  7.50dB Señal/SNR46% AGC99% BER300 ITV HD
10847 =  8.00dB Señal/SNR50% AGC99% BER  0 BBC One HD
10862 =  7.00dB Señal/SNR43% AGC99% BER  0
10876 =  9.50dB Señal/SNR59% AGC99% BER  0 Nickelodeon
10891 =  8.00dB Señal/SNR50% AGC99% BER 90 ITV +1
10906 =  9.50dB Señal/SNR59% AGC99% BER  0 STV
10921 =  8.00dB Señal/SNR50% AGC99% BER 70 TCM
10935 =  9.00dB Señal/SNR56% AGC99% BER  0 ITV HD
10964 =  8.00dB Señal/SNR50% AGC99% BER 60 Channel 5
10994 =  7.00dB Señal/SNR43% AGC99% BER900 ITV HD
11023 =  7.00dB Señal/SNR43% AGC99% BER  0 BBC 1 Scot HD
11053 =  8.50dB Señal/SNR53% AGC99% BER 40 ITV +1
11067 =  8.50dB Señal/SNR53% AGC99% BER 0 20800/810 y 21000 (ITV HD)
11097 =  9.00dB Señal/SNR56% AGC99% BER 0 21000/10/20/30 (ITV HD)
11126 =  8.50dB Señal/SNR56% AGC99% BER 10 Channel 4 HD
11222 =  10.00dB Señal/SNR59% AGC99% BER 0 Greatest Hits
11224 =  12.00dB Señal/SNR75% AGC99% BER 0 RT HD
11260V=  10.50dB Señal/SNR65% AGC99% BER 0 B4U Music
11261H=  10.00dB Señal/SNR62% AGC99% BER 0 horror channel
11307 =  11.00dB Señal/SNR66% AGC99% BER 0 Flava Bliss Scuzz
11343V=  12.00dB Señal/SNR75% AGC99% BER 0 CBS Reality
11344H=  11.50dB Señal/SNR71% AGC99% BER 0 CBS Drama
11426 =  11.00dB Señal/SNR68% AGC99% BER 0 FRANCE 24 eng
11428 =  11.00dB Señal/SNR68% AGC99% BER 0 Fashion One/LBP TV ***  +3dB
11719 =  19.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Lifetime HD
11758 =  19.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Animal Plnt HD
11778 =  17.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
11797 =  18.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
11817 =  17.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
11836 =  18.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Sky Action
11856 =  18.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 E4 HD
11875 =  18.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
11895 =  17.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
11914 =  17.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Pick, cambio=>Disney
11934 =  17.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Sky Intro
11992 =  19.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Dave  ***********  +11dB
12012 =  19.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Sky Family HD
12031 =  18.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
12051 =  18.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
12070 =  8.00dB Señal/SNR50% AGC99% BER 0
12090 =  5.00dB Señal/SNR32% AGC99% BER 0
12109 =  18.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
12148 =  8.50dB Señal/SNR53% AGC99% BER 0
12168 =  5.50dB Señal/SNR34% AGC99% BER 0
12187 =  18.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
12207 =  17.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Pick/Sky News
12226 =  6.50dB Señal/SNR40% AGC99% BER 0
12246 =  5.00dB Señal/SNR28% AGC99% BER 0
12265 =  18.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
12285 =  17.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
12304 =  7.00dB Señal/SNR43% AGC99% BER 2
12324 =  8.50dB Señal/SNR53% AGC99% BER 0
12343 =  19.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
12363 =  18.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
12382 =  18.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Dave HD
12460 =  18.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Sky 3D
12480 =  18.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 The Box/Kiss/Kerrang***  +12dB
12515 =  18.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 MOTORS TV UK
12520 =  16.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Heart Capital Clubland PlanetPop
12545 =  17.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
12551 =  16.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
12604 =  16.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
12610 =  17.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Kiss Magic RT
12633 =  17.50dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 Al Jazeera
12640 =  17.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0
12663 =  17.00dB Señal/SNR96% AGC99% BER 0 Euronews
12669 =  17.00dB Señal/SNR100 AGC99% BER 0 CH NINE UK
PS: Good fishing/Buena pesca.
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Could be Astra 2E, 12480V now very weak in Helsinki on a 1.8m (6.1dB ) Yesterday it was 19dB...

11992H is slightly better at 9.8dB, but yesterday it was maxing out at 20dB. Shame, this was one of my favourite transponders and I was hoping to get a few more months out of it before 2G was in use.
 
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Could be Astra 2E, signal now very weak in Helsinki on a 1.8m (6.1dB ) Yesterday it was 19dB...

I feel the loss of signal is that now we have all the south.
Siento la perdida de señal, se ve que ahora la tenemos toda por el sur.
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Normally levels Madrid (Spain) with 94cm antenna more or less as you have now.
Normalmente los niveles por Madrid (Spain) con la antena de 94cm mas o menos como los tienes ahora.

Yesterday it was +/- 12480 = 6.50dB Señal/SNR40% AGC99% BER17 The Box/Kiss/Kerrang

Within a few days they fix / solve and will be, as always, on the track north.:-Axechase
Dentro de unos dias lo arreglan/solucionan y estara como siempre, en la huella norte.

Astra 2G.
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I hope you don't mind but I've renamed this thread as this change affects us in the north too and it's quite interesting for people outside Spain too.
 

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No problem Timo_w2s.
I read almost every post on the forum./Leo casi todos los post del foro.
Add Canary Islands to the title if you can/Añade Islas Canarias al titulo si puedes.

Notice to partners of the Canary Islands, the levels are very good comments from FuerteVision (we are antenna size).
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Aviso para compañeros de las Islas Canarias, los niveles son muy buenos, comentado por FuerteVision (nos se tamaño de antena).
 

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The big question is are these on 2E or maybe even 2F?
 

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12480V now only 4.8dB. This is significantly weaker than other nearby 2E transponders by several dB. I wonder if this is a 2F Europe transponder which is weaker here in Helsinki than 2E Europe.
 

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The big question is are these on 2E or maybe even 2F?
I ask the fellow FuerteVision that antenna (size) has to be sure.
Le pregunto al compañero FuerteVision que antena (tamaño) tiene para salir de dudas.

Canary Islands/Islas Canarias....
with/con 90cm ===> Astra 2E.
with/con 120cm ====> Astra 2F.

Para las grandes cuestiones, tengo una broma con los amigos.
For larger issues, I have a joke with friends.

Expected to look/Espera que lo miro.
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PD: La "bola" no tiene pilas/The "ball" does not have batteries.
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Good news for me hare. Now with this moves have signal on this freq. on almost 100%
 

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X Timo_w2s.

The companion has FuerteVision 135cm antenna. .28'2º
Hopefully some fellow with 90cm can confirm that tunes from the Canary Islands.
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El compañero FuerteVision tiene 135cm de antena..28'2º
Esperemos que algun compañero con 90cm pueda confirmar que lo sintoniza desde las Islas Canarias.
 

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Here's the full list of moves from last night from 2A North/South to 2E Europe and/or 2F Europe

Reception on my 85cm with Dr.HD F15 in Helsinki from tonight (and last week in brackets)
Tp 06: 11.817V 2.1dB (was 7.2dB Astra 2A South)
Tp 09: 11.876H 1.5dB (was 7.7dB Astra 2A South)
Tp 10: 11.895V 2.0dB (was 7.4dB Astra 2A South)
Tp 15: 11.992H 0.6dB (was 14.9dB Astra 2A North)
Tp 17: 12.032H 1.1dB (was 6.8dB Astra 2A South)
Tp 18: 12.051V 1.0dB (was 6.1dB Astra 2A South)
Tp 40: 12.480V 0.4dB (was 14.3dB Astra 2A North)

No lock on any transponders (some reception in the morning).

Reception on my parent's 1.8m dish with Dr.HD F15 from this evening:
Tp 06: 11.817V 9.3dB
Tp 09: 11.876H 10.8dB
Tp 10: 11.895V 10.3dB
Tp 15: 11.992H 8.4dB
Tp 17: 12.032H 9.4dB
Tp 18: 12.051V 7.6dB
Tp 40: 12.480V 4.7dB

All lock, but 12.480V is very close to the edge, with very little rain fade margin.
 

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11428 H
tp C5U
move to aSTRA 2F
11992H TP 15 MOVE TO ASTRA 2E
12480V tp 40 move to astra 2e

not got any signal from astra 2e
 

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I doubt 11428H is on Astra 2F as I can still get that as normal on my 85cm (currently 6.0dB ).
 

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it can be this week all 2a going kaput
 

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It also crossed my mind that there might be more moves over the next few days. At the moment there are 13 transponders still fired up on 2A (transponders 19-21 and 23-32).

I was rather expecting all this after Astra 2G arrived at 28.2 in the new year. Let's hope Eutelsat 28A can last...
 

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please look about signal change as soon
keep eyes over tp change
 

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Oh I'll be scanning the transponders on a daily basis now...
 

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also uk spot not see on spectrum only two pick 10817v very week
 

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I wonder to want extent this is related with the 2E/2F signal increase we have experienced over here in the past 2 weeks...
I guess this is some optimisation work before the Christmas freeze about to come...
 

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Quick report from Gran Canaria.

I have just checked all the 2A North TPs (as per FlySat) on my Sky box (with the 2.4m Raven dish) and they are all coming in rock solid. I can't get access to a "small dish" feed at the moment.

This may come as no surprise, however, please note that since I had the big dish optimised for 2E (UK) my 2A North reception has normally demonstrated a little pixelation, so unless tonight is a particularly good night, I think they may all have moved to a PE beam.

Maybe it is 2C - can she cover these frequencies?
 
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