Astra 2E: Iberia & Balearics Reports

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Lazarus

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Lazarus

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Now open: Reports by Region, please, once she lights up.

General Operational chat here
 
Huevos

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57E to 58W, C-band and Ku, DVB-S2, 4:2:2 and blindscan.
My Location
38.5ºN, 0.5ºW
For anyone who is interested in remotely tracking 28ºE, band-C and band-D transponders, from this location (38.5N, 0.5W) in (almost) real time I have set up a Vu+ Duo connected to a Famaval 1.8m dish. I'll leave it running until switchover is known to be completed (and will add new transponders if/when there are any). Output is available here.
http://satellites-xml.org/28E-SNR.php
 
Tururu

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90cm motorised dishes(98x90)+fixed+multiLNB+24Unicable.
Currently 55 satellites, 61°West to 57°East.

DB800S-HD VU+DUO2, VU+Ultimo4K, TBS5925, OctagonSX88.
Recycled as the owner.
My Location
North of Madrid (28703 Spain) -3Km of IKEA (40.545847, -3.612012).:-)
Thank you.

PS: Perfect for checking Vu+Duo2 connected to a FTE 0.94m dish (40.5458ºN,3.612ºW).
 
Huevos

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Vu+Duo2 connected to a FTE 0.94m dish (40.5458ºN,3.612ºW).
90cm dish works on 2F transponders here too, but gets flaky anywhere south of Elche.

Got a 90cm, 110cm, 150cm and 180cm here for testing 28E.
 
Tururu

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90cm motorised dishes(98x90)+fixed+multiLNB+24Unicable.
Currently 55 satellites, 61°West to 57°East.

DB800S-HD VU+DUO2, VU+Ultimo4K, TBS5925, OctagonSX88.
Recycled as the owner.
My Location
North of Madrid (28703 Spain) -3Km of IKEA (40.545847, -3.612012).:-)
So you live in Ikea then. :-rofl2
Look at your data (38.5 ° N, 0.5 ° W) for that comment in any post near Alicante (+Barranco de Bernat).;)
How wise it would look, precise point :-doh very close to the truth, in the village.
For Madrid Astra2F levels are higher and time well with motorized antenna 98x90cm are 0'69m ² (so I say 94cm).
The old Astra2D with this antenna I could tune 3 hours a day, 7 tp vertical's of 9 then in winter opening, propagation, all day, all I see/channels I hear are the musical footprint north while working (OK).
In Madrid 180cm Offset antenna with almost 95% (Astra2D).

Movere fixed 130cm I have at 19'2 ° East to 28'2 ° and 19'2 ° E. offset LNB
I have in the attic of an old antenna with positioner 180cm Primary Focus, but never encouraged me to ride.:-wow
PS: Everyone expects the change/arrival 2E/2G very nervous.:-lol
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Mire tus datos (38.5ºN, 0.5ºW) por eso en algun post comente cerca de Alicante (+ Barranco de Bernat). ;)
Como sabia que lo mirarias, precise el punto :-doh muy cerca la verdad, en el pueblo.
Por Madrid los niveles Astra2F son mas altos y de momento bien con la antena motorizada de 98x90cm, son 0'69m² (por eso digo 94cm).
El viejo Astra2D con esta antena lo podia sintonizar 3horas al dia, 7 tp's verticales de los 9 de entonces, en invierno al abrise la propagacion, todo el dia, los canales que veo/escucho son los musicales de la huella norte mientras trabajo (OK).
En Madrid con antena 180cm Offset, casi al 95% (Astra2D).

Movere la fija de 130cm que tengo en 19'2ºEste hasta 28'2º y con LNB desplazado 19'2ºE.
Tengo en el trastero una vieja antena de 180cm Foco Primario con posicionador, pero nunca me animo a montarla.:-wow
PD: Todos esperan el cambio/llegada 2E/2G muy nerviosos.:-lol
 
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Huevos

Huevos

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antenna 98x90cm are 0'69m ² (so I say 94cm).
98X90cm is a 90cm dish because that is the cross section the satellite sees, i.e. from the offset angle the collector appear to be circular.
 
Tururu

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My Satellite Setup
90cm motorised dishes(98x90)+fixed+multiLNB+24Unicable.
Currently 55 satellites, 61°West to 57°East.

DB800S-HD VU+DUO2, VU+Ultimo4K, TBS5925, OctagonSX88.
Recycled as the owner.
My Location
North of Madrid (28703 Spain) -3Km of IKEA (40.545847, -3.612012).:-)
98X90cm is a 90cm dish because that is the cross section the satellite sees, i.e. from the offset angle the collector appear to be circular.
This measure and calculated the area of its surface, remember that it is offset (verified with the specifications.pdf).
Height 98cm
Width 90cm.
The antenna sold as 100cm and 120cm perform as many.:-rofl2
The good news is that yields almost like Gibertini 130cm (138x123cm) that I have, bad as her own, or the focal point of the LNB is well calculated, would have to put a second refector to take up the dB finally now I lose, I move LNB drawing a 10cm radius without loss of signal.
Currently out of print, 125 jumps to 150 normal.
Every time I see the Fibo90 reminds me.
PS: :-nutkick
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Esta medida y calculado el area de su superficie, recuerda que es offset (verificado con las especificaciones.pdf).
Altura 98cm
Ancho 90cm.
La venden como una antena de 100cm y rinde como muchas de 120cm.:-rofl2
Lo bueno es que rinde casi como la de Gibertini 130cm (138x123cm) que tengo, mala como ella sola, ni el punto focal del LNB esta bien calculado, tendria que poner un segundo refector para sacar hasta el ultimo dB que ahora pierdo, puedo mover el LNB trazando un radio de 10cm sin perdida de señal.
Descatalogada actualmente, de 125 salta a 150, normal.
Cada vez que veo la Fibo90 me lo recuerda.
PD: :-nutkick
 
Huevos

Huevos

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You're not going to convince me. 100x90cm has a 90cm electro-magnetic cross-section, hence why it is called a Fibo 90.
 
Tururu

Tururu

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My Satellite Setup
90cm motorised dishes(98x90)+fixed+multiLNB+24Unicable.
Currently 55 satellites, 61°West to 57°East.

DB800S-HD VU+DUO2, VU+Ultimo4K, TBS5925, OctagonSX88.
Recycled as the owner.
My Location
North of Madrid (28703 Spain) -3Km of IKEA (40.545847, -3.612012).:-)
And so with the WavefrontierT90.? 108.6cm x 96.7cm
TechniSat DigiDish45.? 50.8cm x 50.3cm

No problem, I do not sell antennas.
No hay problema, no vendo antenas.

PS: Sorry, off topic.
 
Huevos

Huevos

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My Location
38.5ºN, 0.5ºW
And so with the WavefrontierT90.? 108.6cm x 96.7cm
Wishful thinking. I think 90 in that case is based on theoretical performance, but mine doesn't even come close to the performance of the Fibo90. I'd rate it with performance of an 80cm dish in the centre.
 
Tururu

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My Satellite Setup
90cm motorised dishes(98x90)+fixed+multiLNB+24Unicable.
Currently 55 satellites, 61°West to 57°East.

DB800S-HD VU+DUO2, VU+Ultimo4K, TBS5925, OctagonSX88.
Recycled as the owner.
My Location
North of Madrid (28703 Spain) -3Km of IKEA (40.545847, -3.612012).:-)
WavefrontierT90...Efficiency 65~80%
Mid Band Gain@12.5GHz 39.65dB, but not real.

Center 80% 39dB (like a bad antenna 90cm)
Sides 65% <32dB (35dB gives a 50cm +) thing about 14~16 LNB (19ºeast-30west).

A good antenna 85cm usually these returns (+).
10.7-11.7 GHz 38.5 dB
11.7-12.5 GHz 39.2 dB
12.5-12.75GHz 40.1 dB

In plan banter always say that I need a T200 for Spain.
En plan de guasa siempre digo que necesito una T200 para España.
 
Lazarus

Lazarus

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80cm Motorised.
Several small Dishes.
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North York Moors
Mod Note:

All very interesting, chaps, but this Topic is for 2E Signal Reports. Any Member is welcome to start a new Topic in a relevant part of the Forum if they so wish.
 
Tururu

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My Satellite Setup
90cm motorised dishes(98x90)+fixed+multiLNB+24Unicable.
Currently 55 satellites, 61°West to 57°East.

DB800S-HD VU+DUO2, VU+Ultimo4K, TBS5925, OctagonSX88.
Recycled as the owner.
My Location
North of Madrid (28703 Spain) -3Km of IKEA (40.545847, -3.612012).:-)
From Madrid (Spain), 94cm motorized antenna. (1-2-2014 2:00)
Desde Madrid (España), antena de 94cm motorizada.



 
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DeadHorse800

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My Satellite Setup
Cheap piece of junk Spanish (Tecatel) 120cm(x110) dish, Inverto Ultra twin LNB and Sky HD box.
My Location
Valencia (city)
From Madrid (Spain), 94cm motorized antenna. (1-2-2014 2:00)
Desde Madrid (España), antena de 94cm motorizada.
How does this signal compare with 2F?
 
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the signal from 1n pe beam
 
Tururu

Tururu

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My Satellite Setup
90cm motorised dishes(98x90)+fixed+multiLNB+24Unicable.
Currently 55 satellites, 61°West to 57°East.

DB800S-HD VU+DUO2, VU+Ultimo4K, TBS5925, OctagonSX88.
Recycled as the owner.
My Location
North of Madrid (28703 Spain) -3Km of IKEA (40.545847, -3.612012).:-)
How does this signal compare with 2F?
In this post leave a report.
En este post deje un informe.
http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/threads/astra-2e-current-levels-from-spain-to-compare-when-i-get-the-new-one.160540/#post-870069

I hit back/Lo pego de nuevo.

Some references to compare when in operation the Astra2E, when I boot from the tp 11022 Astra2F, we can see a photo of 28-11-2012 spectrum analyzer, as adjusted other tp's on 4-12-2012, with final photo of 15-12-2013.
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Algunas referencias para comparar cuando entre en funcionamiento el Astra2E, cuando arranco el tp 11022 del Astra2F, podemos ver una foto del analizador de espectro del 28-11-2012, como ajustaron el resto de tp's el 4-12-2012, con foto final del 15-12-2013.





Sky TP.- 11836 H 27500 SNT 34% AGC 99%



DB800S-HD, LNB Inverto Black Ultra 0'2dB, Antenna de 94cm (98x90cm = 0'692m²).
Levels in Madrid north zone today/Niveles en Madrid zona norte hoy 23-1-2014 19:00.

Threshold deco:
SD channels, perfect vision to SNR 30%.
HD channels, perfect vision SNR above 40%.
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Umbral del deco:
Canales SD, vision perfecta hasta SNR 30%.
Canales HD, vision perfecta por encima de SNR 40%.



ASTRA 1N____________________________________________
10714 H SEÑAL SNR90% AGC99% BER0 dB14'50 Channel 4 (c4l)
10729 V SEÑAL SNR93% AGC99% BER0 dB15'00 Channel 4 +1
10744 H SEÑAL SNR93% AGC99% BER0 dB14'50 RTE One
10758 V SEÑAL SNR93% AGC99% BER0 dB15'00 ITV
10773 H SEÑAL SNR90% AGC99% BER0 dB14'50 BBC 1 London
10788 V SEÑAL SNR96% AGC99% BER0 dB15'50 BBC 1 Wales
10803 H SEÑAL SNR90% AGC99% BER0 dB14'50 BBC 1 Scotland
10818 V SEÑAL SNR93% AGC99% BER0 dB15'00 BBC 1 Oxford
10832 H SEÑAL SNR96% AGC99% BER0 dB15'50 ITV HD
10847 V SEÑAL SNR93% AGC99% BER0 dB15'00 BBC One HD
10862 H SEÑAL SNR93% AGC99% BER0 dB15'00 Sky/Disney
10876 V SEÑAL SNR93% AGC99% BER0 dB15'00 Sky/Nickelodeon
10891 H SEÑAL SNR90% AGC99% BER0 dB14'50 ITV +1
10906 V SEÑAL SNR96% AGC99% BER0 dB15'50 STV
10921 H SEÑAL SNR93% AGC99% BER0 dB15'00 Sky TCM
10936 V SEÑAL SNR100% AGC99% BER0 dB16'00 ITV HD
12207 V SEÑAL SNR100% AGC99% BER0 dB16'00 Pick/Sky News
ASTRA 2F____________________________________________
10964 H SEÑAL SNR56% AGC99% BER3 dB 9'00 Channel 5
10994 H SEÑAL SNR53% AGC99% BER23dB 8'50 ITV HD
11022 H SEÑAL SNR53% AGC99% BER0 dB 8'50 BBC 1 Scot HD
11053 H SEÑAL SNR56% AGC99% BER0 dB 9'00 ITV +1
11067 V SEÑAL SNR59% AGC99% BER0 dB 9'50 20800/810 y 21000 (ITV HD)
11097 V SEÑAL SNR59% AGC99% BER0 dB 9'50 21000/10/20/30 (ITV HD)
11127 V SEÑAL SNR62% AGC99% BER0 dB10'00 Channel 4 HD
Eutelsat 28A____________________________________________
11222 H SEÑAL SNR56% AGC99% BER0 dB 9'00 Greatest Hits
11224 V SEÑAL SNR75% AGC99% BER0 dB12'00 RT HD
11259 V SEÑAL SNR71% AGC99% BER0 dB11'50 B4U Music
11261 H SEÑAL SNR71% AGC99% BER0 dB11'50 horror channel
11307 V SEÑAL SNR71% AGC99% BER0 dB11'50 Flava Bliss Scuzz
11344 H SEÑAL SNR71% AGC99% BER0 dB11'50 CBS Reality
11344 V SEÑAL SNR78% AGC99% BER0 dB12'50 CBS Drama
11426 V SEÑAL SNR65% AGC99% BER0 dB10'50 FRANCE 24 eng
11428 H SEÑAL SNR62% AGC99% BER0 dB10'00 Fashion One/LBP TV
Astra 2F____________________________________________
12515 H SEÑAL SNR100% AGC99% BER0 dB19'00 MOTORS TV UK
12522 V SEÑAL SNR100% AGC99% BER0 dB18'50 Heart Capital Clubland Planet Pop
12610 V SEÑAL SNR100% AGC99% BER0 dB18'50 Kiss Magic
12633 H SEÑAL SNR100% AGC99% BER0 dB18'50 Al Jazeera
12663 H SEÑAL SNR100% AGC99% BER0 dB17'00 Euronews
12670 V SEÑAL SNR100% AGC99% BER0 dB17'50 CH NINE UK
Astra 2A____________________________________________
Canales huella norte..
11758 H 29500-3/4 SEÑAL SNR50% 99% BER0 dB 8'00 Animal Plnt HD
11836 H 27500-2/3 SEÑAL SNR43% 99% BER0 dB 7'00 Sky Action
11856 V 29500-3/4 SEÑAL SNR37% 99% BER0 dB 6'00 E4 HD
11914 H 27500-2/3 SEÑAL SNR46% 99% BER0 dB 7'50 Pick
11934 V 27500-2/3 SEÑAL SNR53% 99% BER0 dB 8'50 Sky Intro
11992 H 27500-2/3 SEÑAL SNR50% 99% BER0 dB 8'50 Dave
12012 V 29500-3/4 SEÑAL SNR40% 99% BER0 dB 6'50 Sky Family HD
12382 H 29500-3/4 SEÑAL SNR56% 99% BER0 dB 9'00 Dave HD
12460 H 29500-3/4 SEÑAL SNR37% 99% BER0 dB 6'00 Sky 3D
12480 V 27500-2/3 SEÑAL SNR43% 99% BER0 dB 7'00 Box Kiss Kerrang Smash Hits



Vu+DUo2
ASTRA 1N____________________________________________
10714 H SEÑAL SNR77% AGC79% BER0 Channel 4
10729 V SEÑAL SNR82% AGC79% 0 Channel 4 +1
10744 H SEÑAL SNR79% AGC84% 0 RTE
10758 V SEÑAL SNR80% AGC84% 0 ITV
10773 H SEÑAL SNR75% AGC84% 0 BBC 1 London
10788 V SEÑAL SNR84% AGC79% 0 BBC 1 Wales
10803 H SEÑAL SNR78% AGC79% 0 BBC 1 Scotland
10818 V SEÑAL SNR81% AGC84% 0 BBC 1 Oxford
10832 H SEÑAL SNR82% AGC84% 0 ITV HD
10847 V SEÑAL SNR82% AGC84% 0 BBC One HD
10862 H SEÑAL SNR80% AGC79% 0 Sky/Disney
10876 V SEÑAL SNR82% AGC79% 0 Sky/Nickelodeon
10891 H SEÑAL SNR76% AGC79% 0 ITV +1
10906 V SEÑAL SNR83% AGC79% 0 STV
10921 H SEÑAL SNR80% AGC79% 0 Sky TCM
10936 V SEÑAL SNR88% AGC79% 0 ITV HD
ASTRA 2F____________________________________________
10964 H SEÑAL SNR56% AGC69% 0 Channel 5
10994 H SEÑAL SNR54% AGC69% 0 ITV HD
11022 H SEÑAL SNR55% AGC69% 0 BBC 1 Scot HD
11053 H SEÑAL SNR57% AGC69% 0 ITV +1
11067 V SEÑAL SNR57% AGC69% 0 20800/810 y 21000 (ITV HD)
11097 V SEÑAL SNR58% AGC69% 0 21000/10/20/30 (ITV HD)
11127 V SEÑAL SNR60% AGC69% 0 Channel 4 HD
Eutelsat 28A____________________________________________
11222 H SEÑAL SNR55% AGC69% 0 Greatest Hits Magic
11224 V SEÑAL SNR66% AGC74% 0 RT HD
11259 V SEÑAL SNR60% AGC64% 0 B4U Music
11261 H SEÑAL SNR64% AGC69% 0 horror channel
11307 V SEÑAL SNR65% AGC74% 0 Flava Bliss Scuzz
11344 H SEÑAL SNR66% AGC69% 0 CBS Reality
11344 V SEÑAL SNR64% AGC74% 0 CBS Drama
11426 V SEÑAL SNR58% AGC69% 0 FRANCE 24 eng
11428 H SEÑAL SNR57% AGC74% 0 Fashion One/LBP TV
Astra 2F____________________________________________
12515 H SEÑAL SNR99% AGC69% 0 MOTORS TV UK
12522 V SEÑAL SNR99% AGC69% 0 Heart Capital Clubland Planet Pop
12610 V SEÑAL SNR99% AGC69% 0 Kiss Magic RT
12633 H SEÑAL SNR99% AGC64% 0 Al Jazeera
12663 H SEÑAL SNR99% AGC64% 0 Euronews
12670 V SEÑAL SNR99% AGC64% 0 CH NINE UK
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Canales huella norte..
11758 H 29500-3/4 SEÑAL SNR45% 79% 0
11836 H 27500-2/3 SEÑAL SNR42% 74% 0
11856 V 29500-3/4 SEÑAL SNR35% 79% 0
11914 H 27500-2/3 SEÑAL SNR44% 74% 0
11934 V 27500-2/3 SEÑAL SNR47% 69% 0
11992 H 27500-2/3 SEÑAL SNR47% 69% 0
12012 V 29500-3/4 SEÑAL SNR38% 74% 0
12382 H 29500-3/4 SEÑAL SNR59% 69% 0
12460 H 29500-3/4 SEÑAL SNR52% 57% 0
12480 V 27500-2/3 SEÑAL SNR52% 57% 0 Box Kiss Kerrang Smash Hits

Photos Vu+Duo2.





Photos DB800S-HD.








With this same antenna 100cm, could tune channels ASTRA2D 3 Hours per day, about 18:00, just 7 tp 9's vertical, winter (December-February) to open the spread, all day tp's vertical.
In Madrid (Spain) recommended to the then ASTRA2D antenna is 180cm.
The channels I see/hear belong to north footprint, perfect with 100cm.
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Con esta misma antena de 100cm, podia sintonizar los canales del Astra2D 3Horas al dia, sobre las 18:00, solo 7 tp's verticales de 9, en invierno (diciembre-febrero) al abrirse la propagacion, todo el dia los tp's verticales.
En Madrid (España) la antena recomendada entonces para el Astra2D es de 180cm.
Los canales que veo/escucho pertenecen a la huella norte, perfecto con 100cm.

Is Rover SRM-50 as cheap Eplorer with smaller screen (DVB-S).
Es el Rover SRM-50, como el Eplorer barato con pantalla mas pequeña (DVB-S).

10964.- Channel5, 10994.- ITV HD 11053.- ITV +1 Similar values/valores similares.
C/N: 8.9dB
Potencia: 74.7dBµV
MER: 7.1 dB
CBER: 1.8-E2
VBER: >1.0E-3

11126.- 4seven, Channel 4 London.
C/N: 10.5dB
Potencia: 73.2dBµV
MER: 7.5 dB
CBER: 1.1-E2
VBER: 1.4E-4


PD: Greetings to the guys at the test/Un saludo a los chicos de los test.
 
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trevortronix

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Sky+ Pace 3100 JTAG (FTV)
Technomate TM7102HD-T2 Super
MTI 0.3dB quattro on 1.4m Prime Focus
Inverto Ultra on 1.1m DiSeqC motor
My Location
Tavira, Algarve, Portugal
If Carlsberg did forum posts.....
 
woborny

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My Satellite Setup
1.8m Dish, most Sky and Freesat receivers, 80cm on Illusion motor and Dreambox DM7025, TDT, TDT HD, Ariva 100e,
My Location
Gandia, 70kms south of Valencia, Spain
Plenty of reports coming in from my sources across Spain saying that frequency 11778, the sky epg feed, is coming in nice and clear since its move from 2anorht to 2epe last night.
Reports include "never seen these test screen signal bars so high", and "I am getting the full sky epg, not just a six hour block"
Hopefully this mean no more having to change the default transponder to help the sky box boot up, and a full 7 day and series link service!!!
 
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