Best Motor for Gibertini 1.25m dish

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Hello,

Iam upgrading the size of my dish to a 1.25 Gibertini, ive been told i would need i different motor than the one iam already using for my 1 m dish, can anyone please recommend which motor i should go for and where to buy from (pm please)

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Probably not a diseqc one I would say.
Got one of these plates, and they are a very good sail when it's windy.
Something in the 36V catagory is what you need, either H-H or polar mount and jack.


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is a Stab HH 120 motor ok for a 1.25 dish ?
 
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It will turn it OK for a while, but you have to think of that small plastic drive train trying not to strip itself when the wind is trying otherwise. I would always err on the side of caution, especially if the dish is going on the wall or the roof.


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Moteck SG2100A is no problem on the Gibertini 125cm dish.

Several DXers in Germany run with this combination with no problems.
 
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Is there anyone who has a picture of a Gibertini-Moteck combination.
Someone I know has recently replaced his Triax for a Gibertini 125.
He says that this dish doesn't fit on the Moteck and had to replace the motor for a Stab HH-120, which is much slower.
Perhaps a picture can clear up some things.

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Despite what people are "getting away with", I really do not recommend the Moteck, or in fact any other DiseqC motor for driving a 1.25m dish, regardless of how light it is, unless it is in a very well sheltered location.

Pretty much without exception, the DiseqC motors which I have seen driving a dish bigger than 90cm, have had excessive backlash (play) in the arm and although this can be adjusted, there are a finite amount of times you can do it.
 
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I like this image from satellite superstore.

I'm sure they won't mind me using it to get the point across.
OK, it's a bit extreme, but you get the idea.


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I must confess that the Jaeger SM-1224 is a lovely piece of kit, shame I haven't got the room for a bigger dish. :)
 
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Yes, my dream combo right there in that wee picture...

I think I'll have to change wives before I change dishes though. And credit card companies.
 
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jakenl said:
Is there anyone who has a picture of a Gibertini-Moteck combination.
Someone I know has recently replaced his Triax for a Gibertini 125.
He says that this dish doesn't fit on the Moteck and had to replace the motor for a Stab HH-120, which is much slower.
Perhaps a picture can clear up some things.

Jakenl
Here:

Gibertini 125cm/SG2100A Moteck.

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If he didn't have a sunken windless garden then he might struggle .

Still dodgy though


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Here are some more working setups, this one with a STAB motor.

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rolfw said:
I must confess that the Jaeger SM-1224 is a lovely piece of kit, shame I haven't got the room for a bigger dish. :)
I'm sure it would take a small dish :D

I quite like that motor, I have been wondering if it would be possible to modify one to diseqC control but with a separate 36v supply
 
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Just use a Vbox, does exactly that. :)

PS. Don't think I've even got room for the motor. :D
 
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I'm sure it would take a small dish :D

I quite like that motor, I have been wondering if it would be possible to modify one to diseqC control but with a separate 36v supply
The quality on the Jaeger isn't that good as some beleive, there are reported problems of the metal cracking during higher winds, look at the pic below, i guess it's the famous weak Chinese metal again that is spooking.

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rolfw said:
Just use a Vbox, does exactly that. :)

PS. Don't think I've even got room for the motor. :D
I have looked at the Vbox, but it's yet one more box and cables in my stack, as far as I know, does not have 'usals' or 'goto 0' which I really like.

I am suprised that somebody isn't making a high power motor with builtin diseqC. I think that I shall be canabilising an SG2100a to experiment with.

Anybody got one with burnt out motor or stripped shaft or cracked case, I only want the electronics. :D

I have been looking for info on the diseqC commands that the receivers send out, I need to know the movement per pulse. I think it is 0.1deg but have not found out definitively yet. :(
 
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Likvid said:
The quality on the Jaeger isn't that good as some beleive, there are reported problems of the metal cracking during higher winds, look at the pic below, i guess it's the famous weak Chinese metal again that is spooking.
What sized dish was it driving?
 
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Is there room inside the motor case for a small PCB, do you have any pics of the rest of the motor. :D:D
 
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