where have you seen that, and what do you mean "seen"? Have you actually seen the channels or do you mean you've read about them somewhere? There is no mention of these channels in either Lyngsat or Satcodx, at least, not at the Hotbird location (the usual place Italian fare is transmitted).
Thanks. I find that some channels are clear for short periods then go encrypted again. Any ideas why that is? is it a test or something? just curious. Not that you would notice ofcourse if you had a card inserted anyway but for us poor wee souls this is the highlight of our day