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Einstein's Alcove
Can a lightbulb be conscious?
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<blockquote data-quote="wolsty" data-source="post: 18247" data-attributes="member: 175166"><p>And there's the rub, 2 Old. Your premise is the 'fervent' conviction that consciousness can be produced (created, emulated?) by electronic or electromechanical means. If that premise is false, then everything deduced from it is false. Proponents of Strong AI take the view that consciousness can be reproduced in a machine through the use of an appropriate algortihm. Quite what is meant by consciousness is, at best, open to debate.</p><p></p><p>I have yet to be convinced that AI will ever replace, emulate or compete with what we recognise as human consciousness (analytical thought, self-awareness, intuition etc). There is no reliable evidence for this point of view.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, people who share my view are often seen as religious or spiritual or mystic. In my case nothing could be further from the truth. I have no time for nebulous concepts such as the 'soul'; my scepticism derives from a suspicion that consciousness resides in the brain and no-one has yet shown that what goes on in the brain can be replicated by a suitably programmed machine. What reason do we have to believe that a digital computer is analagous to a brain?</p><p></p><p>If I hadn't spent so much time on this board, I might have been able to listen to the Reith Lectures on Radio 4, which deal with consciousness. Whether I would understand them is another matter entirely.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.satellites.co.uk/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p>Oh yes! And the argument is too reductionist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wolsty, post: 18247, member: 175166"] And there's the rub, 2 Old. Your premise is the 'fervent' conviction that consciousness can be produced (created, emulated?) by electronic or electromechanical means. If that premise is false, then everything deduced from it is false. Proponents of Strong AI take the view that consciousness can be reproduced in a machine through the use of an appropriate algortihm. Quite what is meant by consciousness is, at best, open to debate. I have yet to be convinced that AI will ever replace, emulate or compete with what we recognise as human consciousness (analytical thought, self-awareness, intuition etc). There is no reliable evidence for this point of view. Unfortunately, people who share my view are often seen as religious or spiritual or mystic. In my case nothing could be further from the truth. I have no time for nebulous concepts such as the 'soul'; my scepticism derives from a suspicion that consciousness resides in the brain and no-one has yet shown that what goes on in the brain can be replicated by a suitably programmed machine. What reason do we have to believe that a digital computer is analagous to a brain? If I hadn't spent so much time on this board, I might have been able to listen to the Reith Lectures on Radio 4, which deal with consciousness. Whether I would understand them is another matter entirely. :rolleyes: Oh yes! And the argument is too reductionist. [/QUOTE]
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