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Hey guys,

I want to experiment putting up a satellite dish in the hope of trying to receive Hotbird 13E and Astra 19.2. The problem is, there is already two dishes up on our house - a Sky dish at the front and a fixed 80cm dish at the back of the house picking up Turksat 42E.

I still live with parents and they don't want any of the two dishes being modified. My friend has a 45cm portable camping dish/receiver that he doesn't want and asked me if I wanted it.

This may be out of the question but I thought I'd ask. Would it be possible to set this up inside my room and still pick up a signal? I have a clear line of sight and if needs be could even place it on the Window sill. I have used a Satellite positioning app on my phone to locate the satellites and here is what I got.

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There is also a small flat roof just outside of my window but because we already have two dishes up, I'm not sure if current UK rules allow you to have a third up in public view (which is why I hope to pick something up from inside).

It's also worth mentioning that I wouldn't be looking to permanently have it set up, just occasionally when there are some song festivals taking place
 

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Hi there dankargo
Welcome to the forum.

Well there are numerous threads on the forum about using dishes indoors
http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/...-to-my-indoor-dish-problem.62581/#post-395761
http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/threads/digital-satellite-indoors-oh-yes.78246/page-2#post-488616
http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/threads/what-dish.81683/#post-497493

are just a couple

Double glazing comes in many flavours but generally it attenuates the signal too much, but I would say suck it an see, as you can always setup with the window open and close it knowing you are lined up.

Yes you are restricted by planning rules however the fact that one is on the back elevation and another on the front may not attract too much attention if you put up a third. Really depends on whether you trust the neighbours not to grass on you.
 

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If the window has double pane glass and is UV and IR reflective (most of the newer ones are) it will block enough of the signal to cause a total drop out, one test is with the window open, then close it, also if there is a window screen make sure it's not aluminum, that will totally block the signal.

You can substitute plexiglass in a wooden frame to keep the bugs and weather out.
 

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Thank you very much for the responses!
 

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There is also a small flat roof just outside of my window

Perhaps you could use this to hide the view of the dish from the ground. You could place the dish on the roof or on the brick work just above it. If the roof is felt covered you may be able to bolt an L arm upright onto a concrete slab and place it on the roof.

You can spray the dish with Plastikote spray paint from B&Q to make it blend in with the brickwork. If you have red bricks, Plastikote red oxide primer may be a good colour. You can paint almost everything - all of the LNB except the white cap (cover it with some tape), the mount, the dish, and the cable.

Take a look at these photos and note he should have sprayed the LNBs and LNB holders.

http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/attachments/dscf1995-jpg.25436/

http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/attachments/dscf1996-jpg.25437/


The photos came from this thread.

http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/threads/my-self-installed-fixed-dish-multi-lnb-system


A flat satellite window cable could be used to bring the cable inside without drilling holes.

An Orbital Platinum dish or a mesh 60cm dish and an Inverto Black Ultra LNB would be a good combination.

An unusual but effective alternative since you want to hide it is the OAS Flat 440 Square Satellite Dish. It just looks like a box because it doesn't have an LNB arm.

Or maybe just start experimenting with your small dish.


It hardly rains in Essex which helps.

:)
 

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Thanks very much guys, my friend decided to keep his caravan dish but I quite like a challenge and really want to experiment so I had a look on eBay this evening and got this for £40. The dish is 65cm (whereas my friends was 45cm) so would this give me a better chance of picking up a signal indoors with the window open?
 

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If you don't feel like drilling a concrete slab, it isn't fun, you could put an L arm mount or patio mount in a plastic container and fill it with ready mix cement.

Use a plumb line to ensure the pole is vertical.

The container should be at least 30cm x 60cm. Cut off any feet it has so it sits flat on the roofing felt (feet can dig into the felt). You may want to put an old bit of roofing felt or folded up tarpaulin under the container.
 

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You must have posted as I was typing.

Thanks very much guys, my friend decided to keep his caravan dish but I quite like a challenge and really want to experiment so I had a look on eBay this evening and got this for £40. The dish is 65cm (whereas my friends was 45cm) so would this give me a better chance of picking up a signal indoors with the window open?

Probably.

You will have to try it. Outside is best.
 

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Thanks again for the responses.

I've asked several people and have been told that for what I want, which is to pick up 13E - I don't need a dish bigger then 45cm. I feel like I've done the wrong thing buying a 65cm dish as I initially wanted a discrete setup, so the smaller the better really. Will a bigger dish mean it may be easier to find signal on the satellite?

13E does seem to be in line of sight just outside of the window so fingers crossed I should be able to test the dish inside and hopefully get it permantly installed on the flat roof just outside of the bedroom window.
 

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With the 65cm dish it is quite easy to mount a second lnb to allow reception of both 13E and 19.2E (via a DiSEqC switch) without realigning the dish.
 

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The signal is strong enough to do that up here so it will be very easy in Essex, align on 13e.
 
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