Hi rolfw, You really kind man! I downloaded and tried it. I put yankse and sofcam in it as "Big Ted" described on http://www.satellites.co.uk/php-bin/forum/showthread.php?t=3647 When I use marfi's renderer that is necessary for seeing encrypted channels, it's going somehow unstable and for some channels pictures forced to the left hand of monitor!!!!!! and an empty black column is on right hand!! I have latest version of Marfi's SkyAvc.ax. I don't know this problem is becouse of Marfi's renderer or somthing else!?