They aint new - they have been there for months. Generally speaking, you need a 60cm dish to pick them up - they are on the (weak in the uk) S2 steerable beam which is pointing out over central Europe. I can get them on a circular 60cm dish in south Scotland, but they disappear in heavy rain. You also need a non Sky box as they operate on a symbol rate of 5757 - which a sky box is crippled not to pick up.