first experiment on ASTRA 2D in C.ITALY

[piratt]

hi piratt

how big is your dish ????

to receive astra 2 d

in blugaria

i kn ow

that iceman in cyprus can receive it with a 4,2 m !!!!!

with the quad invacom .....

i am sure to get all 2d with my 3,7 m dish

100%

if not
put the dish into fire)(-red)(-red)(-red)(-red)(-red

eh eh eh!!!!!!!

let see and wait for these new lnb!!!!....
more to come!
ciao

Hi my dish is 1.80m but made in russian this is very quality dishi receive all vertical transponders from Astra2D not horizontal,i use LNB Invacom QUAD QDF-031 my frend with 2.10m dish and LNB Sharp not receive 10.729V,10.906V and 11.758V but with my dish works

 

[barney]

hi ralph here,
were are you with respect to naples italy??
if you get this working i want to visit you if you are within 3 hour drive.
do you have adjustable scaler rings on your feed?
keep us informed
can you take a picture of the feedhorn scaler rings
i have never seen adjustable ones
ralph

Ciao Ralphmagno,
i'm 40Km south of Pescara, i have a 3mt dish...but no astra 2d...... we can make a party with paul862 and :-worship astra 2d coming

 

[koansrc]

I cannot over emphasise the importance of EXACT Skew - if it is possible to receiver 2d then this will be key!

Hi bignick, what do you make of the different skew settings from the different calculators out there ? It was this comment of yours that got me thinking ( again ) in this thread : http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellite/dish-setup-single-sat-multi-sat-motorised-systems/123735-lnb-skew-polarization-angle.html#post738750

 

[ralphmagno]

hello to all,
called irte in gallarate who made the dish.
they sent me mounting instructions for all the prime focus dishes.
the 4 meter has a focus of 154.6 cm and mine is at 157 cm.
just a tad off.
i had to stand in the dish to measure this with a meter stick and i took several measurments.
the skew looks to be on the money were the irte has scalor rings but are not adjustible as all.
i liked the pictures does anyone know c italy were it is???
i am using a new QTF 031 with .3 noise figure and horz and vert high and horz and vert low into a multiswitch.
i will try to focus this better and check the alignment again probally over the weekend.
will post my picture again for those to see again
thanks
ralph

 

[bignick]

Hi bignick, what do you make of the different skew settings from the different calculators out there ? It was this comment of yours that got me thinking ( again ) in this thread : http://www.satellites.co.uk/satelli...5-lnb-skew-polarization-angle.html#post738750

I must admit, I have no idea why the calculaors give such a wide variation in figures. My rational for what I said is purely based on experience. A tiny adjustment at a time - the smaller the better and spend a minute each time you make the adjustment watching the picture as 2d signal does have variations right on fringe reception.

Cheers

Nick

 

[dxsat]

: http://www.satellites.co.uk/satelli...5-lnb-skew-polarization-angle.html#post738750

Regarding skew calulators:
I have just posted the answer to your question in the other thread mentioned above.

see also
_http://www.satlex.de/en/azel_calc-params.html?

 

[ralphmagno]

hi to all,
just wanted to inquire to all were to find a updated EIRP for astra 2d in southern italy.
i was told the signal should reach here at 36 dbi and it would require a 3.5 to 4 meter dish.
in rome the archive shows some one with a 2.4 meter v-sat system with a prodeline adjistible scaler rings and a 4 inch feed horn with a f/d of .8 and 39 degrees feed.
i am using QTF 31 and someone is using a different ivacom c120 lnb.
also since this is a free to air on the bbc and itv there should be receivers better and more senstive than the sky box that will go lower that -65
this will be for super sensitive tuner
thanks for all
ralph
ps
how about geting bbc in streaming whats is the quality
looked on the net and got sky news as a trial and it looked bad
thanks
ralph

 

[paul682]

nice photo my friend

and nice..........................position for adjust the lnb?????!!!!!!!

eh eh eh!|

tomorrow i will send mine

with my little bear

after a day of searching there

im try the conclusion to wait the new 4 from invacom

because the one is at limit at me

i am in the border both for astra 2 d
southern limit

with acceptable diameter and intelsat 902 ( middle east beam )
iranian mux at 11555 v

that i can receive with some pixelation during morning hours

12,00 / 1,00 pm

after 4,00 pm both astra 2d and intelsat 902

go down and the signal decrease very strong

ah ps ralph

why do you dont try 62 east middle east beam 11555 v 27500
there in napoli i think you have a very strong

signal

like coviello i think!

now i go to " CENA !"

see you next timeO-no

 

[Coviello]

Recently, 11556 V (62East) increased its power. Ever since the signal quality on my Golden Interstar 8005 receiver has been varying in the interval [49%, 58 %] (corresponding to [6.7 dB, 8.2 dB] on my Ro.v.e.r) better in the morning; the threshold is 40 dB (the fec being 3/4).
During the morning and late afternoon 10980 V and 10.993 V are also watchable, but the signal strenght is much lower. The threshold for 10993 V is 35% its fec being 2/3.
Another good test is Amos2 (middle-east beam) and 60East.



My antenna is a Prodelin 3.35 cm.

Coviello

 

[barney]

how about geting bbc in streaming whats is the quality
looked on the net and got sky news as a trial and it looked bad
thanks
ralph

Hi Ralph....

we have got a SLINGBOX........

the quality depending from uplaod source.... 512 kbps is quiete good

Ciao

 

[sat345rg]

Hi Paul682,if you are(or speak) italian you should have a look at this post in an italian forum:
_http://www.digital-forum.it/showthread.php?t=36076&highlight=la+verita%27+su+astra+2d

where someone from Umbria says he received good pictures on Astra 2D using a 2.4m fortec star. He also added some photos to prove it.

 

[Gaza 1]

Hi Paul682,if you are(or speak) italian you should have a look at this post in an italian forum:
_http://www.digital-forum.it/showthread.php?t=36076&highlight=la+verita%27+su+astra+2d

where someone from Umbria says he received good pictures on Astra 2D using a 2.4m fortec star. He also added some photos to prove it.

i did notice that the transponders that he was gettting where horizontals only

 

[deepbluesky]

Maybe it's the same sidelobe that covers also NW Greece. There also we have no sign of the Verticals on "small" 2.40m dishes.

@Gaza_1: As i've seen you're using a LS3000 dish (Standard oder Super feedhorn ?) . I wasn't aware of these cheap dishes made in Turkey before. Could you write some words about their quality to have a comparison between them and the major players Channel Master, Andrew, Patriot, DH, Precision Antenna, Aerial Oy, Irte, Supral, Famaval,...? Of course in a new thread not to get too OT here.

 

[charly20]

@ deepbluesky:

http://www.satellites.co.uk/satelli...llite-installations/109683-laser-3m-dish.html

 

[ralphmagno]

hi, we just got back from tweeking the 4 meter dish.
first from 157 cm we got the focus right on to 154.5 cm and the overall signal did come up on the stronger signals.
then we chacked the skew to see if its ok and its on as possible.
then we moved the dish and we got the signal a little stronger.
we looked at the hors low and vert low cables without going through the multi switch, we are using a gray invacom .3 db qtf-031 and this has all for ouptuts different hor-low,vert low,hors-high and vert high.
nothing
we even tried a small line amp just for gp knowing this would generate some noise in the system and we tried 3 different receivers and its no go for the naples lago patria areas.
will have to find someone in the area of rome and see if we can see the dish set up and measure the signal with the EP 313 unaohm and see whats up.
unless there is a magic feed horn other than the original IRTE feed for 4 meter dish that can make it work or a lnb with a .007 bd noise figure or we freeze it to -470 F noise figure is 0.00 db.
have a good day
ralph:-Nooo

 

[paul682]

I WAS yesterday

more lucky

with 83 east KU


TATA SKY

100% on 12 transponders

the only bad thing

is all the channels almost

200 was encrypted in NDS

ciao

***** astra 2d

is more easy to get a sat distant over 6000 km
than one distant 1000 km

ciao

 

[paul682]

hy

someone has suggest me to buy the
quad invacom for get all the tp's on 2d bird

yes i get all the tps

some with a little pixelation on middle hours
some with a clear

image
soon i send some photo
and details of all the transponders
with quality and signal

P.GRANDICELLI
WITH 3,7 FIBERGLASS DISH
STRONG RECEIVER SRT 6155
QUAD INVACOM

MONTELUPONE ( MC ) CENTRAL ITALY
43,34 North
13,55 East

 

[barney]

hy

someone has suggest me to buy the
quad invacom for get all the tp's on 2d bird

yes i get all the tps

some with a little pixelation on middle hours
some with a clear

image
soon i send some photo
and details of all the transponders
with quality and signal

P.GRANDICELLI
WITH 3,7 FIBERGLASS DISH
STRONG RECEIVER SRT 6155
QUAD INVACOM

MONTELUPONE ( MC ) CENTRAL ITALY
43,34 North
13,55 East

very good job Paul,
i'm in Vasto (CH)and i have a 3.00 mt dish with feed/lnb Invacom quad
but any signal from astra2d.....
Do you think that we have a probability to get astra 2d here?

Ciao
Barney

 

[paul682]

probably with 4,20 m dish
yes,
like iceman in cyprus

the only 2 tp that i dont receive is 10906 v

and 10936 v

NO SIGNaL there!

 

[paul682]

im in the south limit of astra 2d

with 3,7 m dish

because i think that probably 50 km more south of my location

dont arrive nothing

because i am in the south limit of this bird

for CENTRAL ITALY