free to view card with poor man's cam?

kamaleon

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#1
Hi all

Can one use a sky yellow house (the ones cheap on ebay) card with poor man's cam and say a phoenix usb device to watch channel 4 + five?

(hope this is the right place to ask - if not i'll post on the cam section)
 

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#2
You need an official SKY FTV Card and a working SKY BOX to keep the card active.
 

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#3
what does that mean exactly... i'm not used to brit sat reception... is the card regularly updated via sat and only a digibox can do it?
 

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#4
Yep sorry, needs the box to keep it active.
 

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#5
sorry, not fully satisfied with this answer.
I'll reformulate:

#1 how can one use an active sky card without a digibox (ie. dragon cam, etc)

#2 can poor man's cam plugin decrypt videoguard with an active sky card?
 

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#7
2- The card needs to be updated every X days and a digibox is the only way to keep it working using the phone line.
The sky card requires "stay alive" refresh signals. These are transmitted via satellite and are required every 2-4 weeks. You do not need a phone line to keep the card alive.


For a brand new installation the card will also need to be initially authorised in a digibox.

To be honest, its much simpler all round to have a second small static dish specifically for 28E attached to a digibox.
 

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Why couldn't the card "stay alive" plugged into a phoenix programmer and being cam-emulated? What would be the difference?
 

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#9
Dunno, try it and see.....

Note - the card contacts are in a different place on Sky cards than most cards (offset to one side slightly) which could be a problem... If you get it to work please tell us!:D :D :D
 

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#10
Analoguesat said:
The sky card requires "stay alive" refresh signals. These are transmitted via satellite and are required every 2-4 weeks. You do not need a phone line to keep the card alive.
Thanks, I knew I had something wrong... :-doh!
 
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