Freesat in Portugal

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springood

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1.3m dish.
HTS 7300 receiver
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portugal
Good Evening.

I am in Portugal using a sky box

Manufacturer: PACE
Model Number 1.3.37
Version number: 9F0C02
Operating system version: 1.2S4FE
EPG Software version: 3.4.4b

With my satellite I have locked onto a signal. I have no idea what satellite I am connected to but the transponder is as follows:


Details on SKY Box as at 16 March 2018

Frequency (GHz) 11.778
Polarisation : V
Symbol rate (Mbaud) : 27.5
FEC : 2/3


Signal Test
Lock Indicator : ok
Network id: 0002
Transport stream: 07d4

These are the channels below I can view. (Loads I cannot). If I wanted BBC1 would I have to rotate the satellite a bit to lock on to another transponder? I typed in other transponders like that showing on this website (List of free-to-air channels at 28°E - Wikipedia) but nothing changed. Also what satellite have I locked onto? I'm guessing ASTRA. I searched for a website that would help me understand from a list of channels available what satellite I am locked on but with no success.

I very much look forward to receiving any help. Thank you.


117 WEST MIDLANDS LIVE
145 CHALLENGE
152 PICK
164 PICK +1
170 CHALLENGE +1
180 - BAD SIGNAL BUT LOOKS LIKE ITV3 +1
187 BET BLACKENT TV
189 PROPELLER
198 PROPERTY SHOW
203 MYTV
208 BAD SIGNAL BUT LOOKS LIKE ITV3
212 SHOWCASE
218 VOX AFRICA
232 AIT INTERNATIONAL
235 ABN TV
238 BEN
249 TRAVEL CHANNEL
251 TRAVEL CHANNEL +1
253 HORSE AND COUNTRY
256 HOLIDAY + CRUISE
264 FORCES TV
290 SHOWCASE +1
291 GN TV
292 FAME TV
293 YANGA
323 SONY MOVIES
324 SONY MOVIES +1
325 MOVIES FOR MEN
326 MOVIES FOR MEN +1
329 NOLLYWOOD
343 TALKING PICTURES
344 RDK
369 VINTAGE TV
370 NOW 90's
378 NOW 80's
383 clubland tv
385 channel aka
387 heart tv
388 capital tv
389 keep it country
468 front runner
502 bloomberg
505 CNBC
506 CNN
508 EURONEWS
510 CGTN
511 NDTV 24X7
512 RT
514 AL JAZEERA ENG
515 CNC WORLD
516 SKY NEWS
517 TVC NEWS
519 TRT WORLD
538 YESTERDAY +1
539 TOGETHER
565 BLAZE
575 CHANNELS 24
576 TIMES NOW
580 GOD CHANNEL
581 REVELATION
582 TBN UK
585 INSPIRATIONAL TV
586 LOVEWORLD TV
587 GOSPEL CHANNEL
588 WORD NETWORK
589 EWTN CATHOLIC
590 FAITH WORLD TV
591 KICC TV
592 BELIEVE TV
593 OLIVE TV
594 SONLIFE
595 FAITH UK
597 HILLSONG
650 QVC
651 JML DIRECT
652 TJC
653 QVC STYLE
654 IDEAL WORLD
656 HIGHT STREET TV1
657 RETAIL TV
658 HIGH STREET TV2
659 BEST DIRECT
660 TJC CHOICE
661 IDEAL EXTRA
663 HOCHANDA
665 JEWELLERY MAKER
666 HIGHT STREET TV 4
667 TV WAREHOUSE
668 QVC BEAUTY
669 PAVERS SHOES TV
670 THANE
671 V CHANNEL
672 ROCKS AND CO
673 QVC EXTRA
674 CREATE AND CRAFT
676 SHOP NOW
677 PRICE CRASH
678 SEWING QUARTER
680 CRUISE FIRST
785 PCNE CHINE
787 MUSLIM TV
791 JUS PUNJABI
792 PKAAL CHANNEL
TV PRIME
793 MA TV NATIONAL
794 ABU DHABI TV
799 HUM MASALA
800 HIDAYAT TV
802 GEO NEWS
806 PTV GLOBAL
804 NEW VISION TV
805 VENUS TV
806 ISLAM CHANNEL
807 GEO TV
811 ABP NEWS
812 NOOR TV
813 PEACE TV
814 CHSTV
815 PTC PUNJABI
817 GEO KAHANI
818 AAJTAK
819 LASSIC FM
IQRA TV
821 92 NEWS
824 BRIT ASIA TV
825 IQRA BANGLA
826 AHIEBAIT TV
827 ATN BANGLA UK
828 MADANI CHAL
829 SIKH CHANNEL
830 PEACE TV URDU
831 AHLUBAYT TV
832 SAMAA
833 CHANNELI
834 TAKBEER TV
836 SANGAT
837 AASTHA
838 NTV
840 SKYNEWS ARABIA
842 TV 99
843 AKAAL CHANNEL
844 HUM EUROPE
845 BRITISH MUSLIM
847 SALEER TV
849 TV ONE
851 ISLAM CHURDU
854 CHANNEL 44
857 EMAN CHANNEL
858 KTV
859 APIUS TV
862 IDN TV
864 KANSHI TV
868 VTV
873 CHAT BOX
899 SKY INTRO
950 SKY INTRO
999 SKY

0106 CLASSIC FM
0106 ABSOLUTE
0109 CAPITAL
0110 PLANET ROCK
0111 HEART
0112 HEART 80's
0113 RADIO X
0114 CAPITAL EXTRA
0121 GOLD
0122 WRN EUROPE (POLISH)
0124 LBC
0128 SMOOTH
0129 SOLAR
0130 PUNJABRADIO 1
0138 TWR CHOICE
0146 SMOOTH EXTRA
0147 EWTN RNA G
0150 SOKH SANGAR
0151 KHUSHKHABRI
0160 RTE RADIO 1
0164 RTE 2FM
0165 RTE LYRIC FM
0166 RTE Rna G
0169 DESI
0178 KISS
0180 MAGIC
0185 GN RADIO
0186 LIBERTY
0188 ABSOLUTE 70's
0200 absolute 80's
0201 absolute 90's
0202 jazzfm
0203 classic rock
0205 kashi
0210 newstalk
0211 BFBS
0214 UCB IRELAND
 
Analoguesat

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You are locked onto the 28E Astra 2 satellites . But you are only getting the European beams. If you want to watch BBC ITV C4 etc then you probably need a (much) bigger dish. If you are in the Algarve region forget it - the signal strengths for the UK spots along the southern Spanish & Portuguese coasts are absolutely abysmal.
 
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a33

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Details on SKY Box as at 16 March 2018

Frequency (GHz) 11.778
Polarisation : V
Symbol rate (Mbaud) : 27.5
FEC : 2/3
This transponder could also be from 23,5E.
To get 28,2E and 28,5E, you must aim the dish further east.

But I'm not sure what it is that you were doing or trying?

greetz,
A33

Edit But the frequency is also at 28E, indeed.
Edit2: Ah! You responded to my post already...
 
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Analoguesat

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This transponder could well be from 23,5E.
To get 28,2E and 28,5E, you must aim the dish further east.

But I'm not sure what it is that you were doing or trying?

greetz,
A33
If he is getting all the UK shopping channels & religious then the dish is correctly aligned onto 28E.

11778V is the main "default transponder" on Sky boxes and is the one that shows up on the signal strength "meter" unless you change it.
 
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springood

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My Satellite Setup
1.3m dish.
HTS 7300 receiver
My Location
portugal
Thank you for the info.

Okay, so I am locked onto the cluster of ASTRA Satellites at 28E.

Researching on wikipedia (Astra 2D - Wikipedia) , I note ASTRA 2A,2B,2C and 2D have moved.

Maybe these satellite movement changes are the cause why I cannot receive BBC/ITV channels now because I did many years ago get these channels.

I have a 1.2 m size dish and this website ....... 28.2°E Astra 2E Astra 2F Astra 2G - List of free-to-air satellite television channels seems to infer my dish size is not the issue and the "cm" lines say a 60 cm dish is fine. (this website though refers to ASTRA 2D when it was around.)

On Europe, Africa & Middle East - LyngSat , I must be must be connecting to either ASTRA 2E or ASTRA 2F or ASTRA 2G.

So, if my dish size is not the issue, would the next step be to turn the dish in some other direction?
 
woborny

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Your issue IS with dish size.
BBC ITVs are on the UK beam, and require a much larger dish than your 1.2m dish to receive.

YOu may have got these channels fine when they were on the old previous 2D satellite, "many years ago", but 2d has now been replaced with 2e, 2f and 2g, and their "uk beam" differs to that on 2d...hence why your dish is no longer large enough to receive those signals.

The "60cm" on the map is for the European beam....which from your channel list above, you are receiving (from Astra 2e, 2f and 2g)
 
Analoguesat

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@springood click on the link in my sig and it will give you an idea of the dish sizes needed across much of Europe. These are actual reports from reception most of which were kindly supplied by the members here on this forum.

Astra'a 2A - 2D have all been decommissioned. The new satellites have much more tightly focussed spotbeams than 2D used to have - you havent told us where you are but if you are on the south coast there is no signal along much of the Portuguese / Spanish coasts on 4m dishes!!
 
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springood

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I am located in Central Portugal close to the city of Castelo Branco
 
Analoguesat

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You might get some reception of the SD channels on a 2.3m dish. You probably need to go up at least a couple of dish sizes to have some chance of the HD channels in anything but perfect reception conditions.
 
TonyilCapo

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My Satellite Setup
Dishes: PF (restored Famaval) 2.4m 28.2E, offset 60cm 30W, 90cm 13E+19E, spares 80cm+1.15m
STBs: Vu+ Vu+ Duo2 DVBS2 x4 1TB HDD, GI Avatar2 DVBS2 x2, Vu+Zero
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Hi
2.3m dish should pickup all channels, I think. I'm not too far north with a 1.2m offset could have almost all (2E) SD (marginal) in clear weather.
With a Prime Focus 2.4m dish using a universal LNBF (not optimal, probably up to 2dB+ loss) I get pretty much everything with good signal, only a couple transponders kinda below average, but yeah, the LNBF...

Most people have bad aligned dishes, I've seen it here before, I was getting signal with a 1.2m dish and they weren't with a 1.6m+.
 
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