Not sure if this is still useful, but by a serious of strokes of luck I get analogue French TV in colour here in Liverpool in virtually perfect reception with a 57cm Arcon Multi dish and a nokia 1700SAT receiver bought off ebay before Christmas. The TV I got is a Grundig Ghia which just switched automatically into Secam operation without any adjustments at all. France 2 is the best pic, also good are France 5 , M6, Canal+, and TF1 is farily ok apart from a few sparklies. The signal is really strong. For some reason can't tune FR3 which is right at the top of the band on 12730MHz somewhere. It's not the universal lnb on the dish stopping reception. Must be the Nokia receiver which has some upper limit. Would like to hear from anyone else using analogue on Atlantic Bird 5 deg west. The prob Ihave now is that it's virtually impossible to record stuff as there's onyl one VCR which likes Secam input around at moment - Samsung 3000W and its £350. So there's the drawback. But at least it's not an annual sub to TPS or Canal Satellite!