HELP! Can't get digital German Eurosport on Astra 1 19.2E...

[Analoguesat]

Hi Everton Paul. I've followed your thread all the way through because I have a similar setup. Did you eventually get Eurosport digital in 12226 27500 3/4? I've failed utterly after 2 or 3 weeks. I've had my analogue box set up and got analogue Eurosport. I then tried a digital box with the dish unmoved, apart from very small 'nudges' about that position. Zilch! I then moved the dish with the digital box still connected and get the full SKY output, BBC Red Button and all. Done this at 3 different sites around the property, because the neighbour has several large trees a bit close to the lines of sight. Still all zilch! The LNB is defnitely universal, 9.50 and 10.60.

On another thread I found the following: "ANY generic DVB S box can get Eurosport Deutschland". Can any kind soul tell me please what "DVB S" signifies? Do bog standard UK Sky boxes conform to "DVB S"? I am using a Sky issue Pace box Model 440N. Do I need to get a 'B&Q' or other Sky-independent box?

All and any suggestions would be most welcome.

Brianboroo.

Sky receivers are not recommended for use away from 28E - they are flaky and prone to throwing a wobbly if their software isnt updated over time. It is possible to get them to work, but its a tedious process setting them up and changing channels every time.

You will be well advised to get a cheap generic box from Lidl, Ebay etc as just tuning to ES Germany through "Other Channels" will be an infuriating experience if you do it regularly.

 

[Lazarus]

On another thread I found the following: "ANY generic DVB S box can get Eurosport Deutschland". Can any kind soul tell me please what "DVB S" signifies? Do bog standard UK Sky boxes conform to "DVB S"? I am using a Sky issue Pace box Model 440N. Do I need to get a 'B&Q' or other Sky-independent box?

All and any suggestions would be most welcome.

Brianboroo.

That'd be me you're quoting.

Sky boxes conforms to DVB S (mainly!), but are nevertheless not what we generally mean by "generic" .... That term is used to describe DVB S compliant boxes which do not have an overarching interest eg being made Platfrom specific (BSkyB, Freesat etc.).

It's like saying all Fords are Cars but not all Cars are Fords. Sort of!

 

[davemurgtroyd]

Aha ... so now we get to the bottom of it. I must, as you say, have an old "Sky Analogue" LNB on the dish.

There are major mismatches in the channel frequencies listed at the flysat.com website and those listed on my receiver. For example, Montagne TV is at 11251 and 12101 on my box, not 11509... and RT today is at 12131 and 11281 on my box, not 11533.

You can also see now that you are dealing with a complete Sateliite novice!

Some further questions if you'll humour me ..

I have a new dish with a modern universal LNB that came with the receiver. I planned to point that at 28.2E to get the English satellite TV channels, and leave the old dish pointed at 19.2E.

So possible options.

1) Is it possible to get a dual LNB dish that can get both 19.2E and 28.2E (I guess the difference in angle is quite small)? Or would it be cheaper just to get a new LNB for the old dish pointing at 19.2E and set up the new fixed dish that I have pointing at 28.2E?

2) If I do get a new LNB for the old fixed dish, will the dish size be O.K. for the "new" digital frequencies? It's about 70 cm and worked fine for old analogue stuff on 19.2E.

3) In either set up, is it possible to have a switch/junction box to feed both LNB signals into the same receiver? Can you blend the signals with a simple 'splitter' type device, or do you need an actual A/B switch?

4) Can you tell me a bit about the old "Sky Analogue" LNB? Is it essentially just junk now?


P.S. Please spell out any ACRONYMS in your answer .. I am a novice after all!


Cheers..

From these results you have an old single band 10GHz LNB and the receiver is thus reporting the frequencies as roughly 250 MHz out and the second frequency because the receiver thinks it is switching the lnb to high frequency band but is not.

 

[BRIANBOROO]

Thanks to "Analoguesat" and "Tivu" for your help.

I think I managed to get Eurosport on digital with German commentry back in about 2009 when I was preparing to combat a previous threat to kill off the analogue service. It would have been with one or other of the old black non-Pace boxes; maybe they were more compliant and easy-going than the later silver ones I am using now? No matter, looks like they mean it this time. I could invest in a non-Sky box as suggested but in reality I am only interested in Eurosport to keep her inside happy with the Eurosport tennis coverage and this route will still only have the chat in German, to which her response will no doubt be "Nien, Bitte"!

So I've decided to trial the "Europlayer" route which gives me British Eurosport and British Eurosport2, in English, via broadband to my laptop, shipped on to a decent sized TV, for about 10% of the relevant Sky subscription. Next thing to work out, of course, is how to release my laptop so that *I* can use it again. I suspect that this means "Slingbox" [whatever that might be!] or similar, so we may meet again in another forum. It doesn't mean that I don't appreciate your help on this, and previous occasions.

Have a nice day, all!

Brianboroo